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Your point? Adrenaline kicks in end game but it's totally useless when we get moried. Borrowed time won't help much because you could just chase the person unhooking, and Ds can't even do anything against a mori so 🤷‍♂️

Um quick question. Why is the ruin nerf so big for people? The old ruin your totem gets broken pretty fast if someone is using a map or good at finding totems. I just don't see the difference.

Not all survivors want to be toxic. I don't want to be toxic. I just wanna do my challenges and escape and help me team escape if it means sacrificing myself. But when a killer shakes their head at me and face camp and hit me on the hook you bet ima be toxic back because all that wasn't necessary.

Not necessarily. You could tea bag at a pallet or on the other side of the window or exit gate if you made it

There already aren't a lot of pallets. I don't know what more do you want? Let survivors just spawn on the hook or remove all the pallets. Use perks like spirit fury and enduring

Not really. The killer objective is to kill everyone (not get one single person out the game because they are toxic) while applying pressure on the gens to stop them from popping.

Um I would have to say clown for me. If I go against a good clown we both always outplay each other throughout the match.

Inexperienced survivors. Learn how to win without ruin

So we just gonna act like they didn't nerf ds, metal of man, borrowed time, and exhaustion? Is that not a thing anymore? In my opinion I don't think a killer needs to benefit off of ruin, and people talk about totem spawns like play on Hawkins or the game and try to find totems on there. It is so hard. What the devs are…

Why are you so triggered by this? It's only just a game. The devs try to do what's best for everyone instead of hating try to see from everyone perspective and not think about yourself.

You act like they didn't change ds for killers, self care for killers. Get over yourself

In my opinion I don't think they need to be changed anymore, because like you said they nerf exhaustion perks to where we only get it once a chase. But if they were to do something with then I wouldn't care because I don't use them

Gen rushing doesn't help survivors one bit. I've played a game where the survivors gen rushed and everyone Depip

I personally don't think that it's a big deal. A survivor can vault a window of a maximum of 3 times in a chase, so hug the walls and keep chasing or do some type of mind game (depending on the killer). If a survivor uses a person on the hook as shield is a good thing for killers because your basically securing your kill…

That's very true and honestly I don't really bump into a lot of clowns but when I do like 1 out of 100 games a clown would run that add on. So do you think that add on could use a buff?

I don't really know about that. If a skillful huntress always hits her hits then that's pretty rewarding, but if someone new wants to play as huntress but suck and miss all their shots then what was the point of running the add on

When I play survivor on that map I usually vault it once to gain distance to another pallet or try to lose the killer. If I'm the killer I usually get the person if they try going for a second loop but I can understand the frustration since to me it feels like some killers vault slower than others.

I just wanna know when I'm being so innocent and just doing gens. Someone tell me why do I out of all people me the least toxic one on my team gets tunnelled and face camped against a leatherface.

Preach

Please tell me why everytime I run pounders tier 3 btw and I get a brown med kit or a damn brown toolbox

To me I think decisive strike is overrated because you can easily slug someone or not tunnel or Bond because you can see when someone is coming to sandbag. I feel perks like beast of pray are underrated. I think perks like those need a buff.

I use dead hard a lot more now because of the nerf, but killers respect it. So I think I'm just gonna start running Lithe.

I agree, I hate how killer can easily get a 4k with just a mori. I feel like red moris are op because they only have to hook everyone once and then its game over. I just feel like we need to get hooked twice when it comes down to and ebony mori

Lol thats it very funny but last time I checked killer are the ones who got ds nerfed by crying and complaining and other perks to and also you just want nurse and spirit to stay the same so you can het easy 4k because I know for a damn fact you can't get mo 4k at rank 1 with a killer like ######### leatherface.

Well you're entitled to your own opinion

I honestly agree with you so much but are insta heals actaully getting nerfed? Cause if so then thats just stupid whats the point? You can only use it one time its not like there was a big deal with them.

Lmao okay that isn't out problem that they are in the game for a reason. Metal of man was a bit op I understand that but why would they nerf it witnhin a week on its release. Don't give us actaul good perks then nerf it like that. I don't care that much about spirit there are obviously ways to counter her and I don't face…

I literally can't even agree with you anymore. Finally someone that gets "us survivors"

I only brought it up because I know some of you killer mains are gonna to bring it up anyways so I was like why not, so lets not jump the boat.