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Gotta love how by default his own power attacks him.

Exactly. It is like @Ryuhi said: A chicken and egg situation.
It is a culmination of bad decision-making from BHVR's side, and players reacting to that (i.e. becoming more efficient, because they have to). You have probably heard the term "optimizing the fun out of games" before?
The only way to reverse this is to fundamentally change the way the game is played, and a shattering of the current meta. Think, a patch like 6.1.0

please reconsider adding Elusive off hook. that change alone would help with the frustrations of being instantly tunneled off hook since the killer can’t easily track your pools of blood and scratch marks.

I wasn't try to imply you had any one specific opinion on this, which is why I specifically said "OP" and not "you" when talking about the "causes of tunneling" thing. I'm not trying to argue against a point I think you made, I'm trying to explain to you why a point someone else (OP, that is to say, MechWarrior3) was incorrect and how a different user (Firellius) addressed that incorrect point. This isn't about you.

You're looking for the term "positive feedback loop."

That said, Firellius still has a point. Often when the "tunneling causes gen rushing (or vice versa)" debate comes up, you will see people say "I only gen rush because people tunnel," or the opposite, "I only tunnel because people gen rush." (OP has actually said this second one one themself in this thread). The fact this thread is titled "why are we not doing anything about gen speeds," and the point about gen speeds causing tunneling, lead to the implication that if gen speeds were reduced, that would reduce tunneling in turn.

The point Firellius has is that we have clear historical precedent that contradicts that implication. 6.1 was a patch where the required time to complete gens increased, and people immediately noted an increase (not a decrease) in the amount of tunneling. Maybe OP truly would tunnel less if gens took longer, but the existing evidence shows that they are in the minority.

In the interest of actual discussion, let me give you another perspective.

I'll take you at face value that you both want to improve the game and address core issues.

You claim to want to address these things, and at a surface level you and I both agree that we should address these issues. Ideally at or around the same time.

I'd love to have meaningful discussions about to what degree gen speeds are actually a problem or how we can meaningfully buff trapper without just adding dash slop.

And I'd also have no issue discussing that in context of "and here's the changes to tunneling that would go with that".

Unfortunately, historically what the loudest voices want is the first part (nerf gen speeds), and absolutely will not allow BHVR to address the second part (tunneling). And whenever that has happened in the past, we get direct or indirect buffs that result in making tunneling worse with literally nothing that attempts to address or fix that part of the issue.

And usually, when we start taking about the "fix tunneling part" is where people start to give a huge amount of push back or just throw up their hands and claim it's bias. Or something else to shut down the conversation (usually it's SWF or gen speeds).

So, for context, when @Firellius responded and I gave you solid reasons why tunneling absolutely has to be dealt with in this discussion you shut down instead of engaging. You jumped into "bias" claims instead of giving any kind of actual discussion.

That doesn't feel like you're looking for a solution, it feels like you're joining the loud group that we see a lot here that claim "gens speeds need fixed, but if you expect any tunneling changes I'm out, forget it". Now maybe that's not your stance, and I'm willing to take your word for now that it isn't. But that's likely why you're getting downvoted here.