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probably a dumb comparison and one I may get some flack for.

But I think legion is ok in 2v8 because we already have ghostface and now 4 zombie nemi let me explain.

With ghosty you can mark half the team, effectively putting the survivors in a similar situation with the other killer and leads to easy downs. Plus ghosty has stealth and with chaos of 2v8 you get a lot of grabs/free hits.

And 4 zombie nemi slows down the game so much if no one is running torch bearer, additionally they provide crazy amounts of info on a similar degree to legion on comms. And now that there’s so many, nemi can murk his zombies way more often to tier up which is what was keeping him mid in other 2v8s; you lost the game by the time you got tier 3 and he’s was effectively nerfed by wesker.

On comms and depending on my randoms skill level I’ve been absolutely rolling with new nemi and ghosty, and the games haven’t been close. Unlike with legion where 1-3 good survivors who camp pallets can absolutely stone wall you and you’re left with no stealth or movement or anti-loop.

So I’d rather legion be in 2v8 than not at all because you already have crazy strong supp killer options. they could gut his kit, but legion should absolutely come back, because when more killers drop with crazy buffed up kits I’m sure we’ll find new combos to run that are more fun or stronger than legions + oni/any high mobility killer. Me personally Im waiting for Double vecna and houndmaster + wolf only drac.

I'm a little confused which of the two separate topics of yourself, you're discussing here. I'm going to assume the second in regards to seeing teammates' perks. I haven't paired with teammates who play like that in ages, it's not fun, but at the same time IDK if that person is new to the game or experienced. IDK if they're doing a Daily / Archive challenge. So as unfun or frustrating that might be, I try to keep those options in mind, because with DBD you never know.

At the max the game lasts what 8 minutes? Maybe occasionally longer if you get really unlucky, but that is just par for the course. Would I want to have spent that amount of time in lobbies, with people constantly dodging them instead? No. At least in-game I can do stuff, earn BP, and do challenges.

Lol… #########..

I am sorry for the doc players, but this is also hilarious at the same time.

BHVR are this a joke btw?

Someone needs to explain this: First, the Legion is introduced to the 2v8 mode, and now it's being permanently removed?

Just because they can't balance it with Frency? But an Oni who can seemingly activate Fury every second is fair and gets to stay!

In my opinion, the problem isn't with the Legion or Frency balancing, but with the partner selection. The Legion is being punished for the killer's work, even though that's their job...

By removing it from the 2v8 mode, they might as well rename it 2vS Rush, since the generators are no longer manageable, while the survivors gain an ever-increasing advantage.

This would actually get survivors to use cameras, I support.

Yes, I read your entire post, I know. I was just explaining why, since that is what the devs have said over the years, it wasn't an attack on you or a slight.

As for you broaching an entirely different topic: that is exactly why they wouldn't want to add that to lobbies or in a way that would allow for people to just keep dodging and extending waiting times even more. You went from discussing adding more communication tools (something that would be helpful) to just you wanting to abuse info to dodge teammates/lobbies (something that is counterproductive).

Maybe go read the 781 threads already made on the subject.

@QwQw Thanks!