The Continued Ignorance of Performance Issues Continues to Hamper Player Fun
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Hey @ScottJund on the off chance that you read this, I apologize if this comes off as desperate or rude.
I'm sure that you've probably seen this thread by now, and if you haven't, the first page should tell you what can be found on the next 30+ pages.
At this point in time, I've tried my best to fight to get Console's and low-spec PC's the optimization they were promised, but I find myself unable to carry the topic any further. I simply do not have the influence nor the capability to expand it any more. This is why I've tagged you.
I was wondering if you'd be willing to speak about this topic. You've created some of the best video essays in the community and while I haven't always agreed with you, I have always found your arguments to be well thought out and well put together.
This issue doesn't only affect Console players, but also our friends over on PC as well. Not everyone has the money to spend on a 800 USD gaming system, and we shouldn't need to spend that much money in order to play a 5 year old game.
BHVR's continued silence on this is unacceptable, especially after they promised improvements in March 2019.
Despite this thread, no word has been given about Optimization. I fear that, like colorblind settings, the only way to get results is to continue to expand the audience, which is where you could help.
I understand if you are unable or unwilling to do so, but it would mean a lot to me and to many other people on this thread (and to people on the affected systems) if you would help us.
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If you can stop by the thread I'll give you some Demogorgon cosmetics
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Try not to spam him, I certainly wouldn't want to wake up and have a hundred tags to one thread lmao
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Hillbilly and Hag.
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I'm sorry for your loss.
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I mean,the fog whisperer thing is one of the most useless things i've ever seen.
It's just a marketing tool to increase cosmetic sales
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I remember the times otzdarva has forward stuff to behavior. Only for nothing to be done about what he sent to them.
Same can be said for the others in a way too. Some of them know this game like the back of their hand, and behavior ignores their advice and suggestions and moves forward with many unpopular changes.
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It was devastating but I still try and be hopeful. With the optimization it blows when every curve is ruined by a lag back. Or every tp is ruined by a paused animation.
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pretty sure there's actually no console fog whisperers
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Based on recent happenings may not be good one to bring attention to this because right now there's plenty that will go against him saying optimization needs to happen just because it's him and the drama surrounding him.
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Wouldn't be a good idea to advertize your terrible optimization,right? 🤣
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Nobody is that stupid, I hope.
He's also the only person I can get ahold of.
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Alright, who wants to be the first XD
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Honestly, I'd hope people wouldn't be so petty as to turn against the goal of optimization just because they are upset with a particular person asking for it.
But this is the DbD community, so who knows? Drama abounds in the Entity's realms.
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The only people that would do that would be some trolls on twitter.
Better Optimization should be a thing the majority of the community agrees on
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The ridiculous things from both sides I've seen recently on twitter/twitch chats really doesn't give me much hope. It's sad how petty the followers have been. I've seen people say they won't tune in to the charity stream next month that has like 100 players just because the handful of people involved in drama are participating. 🤦♀️ Don't underestimate the pettiness of this community. 😂
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Definitely petty.
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Hey I agree its a big issue but I'm not really sure what you want me to do about it. I could make a video that gets 8 trillion views and it still won't affect what Behavior actually does.
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I though I read somewhere there was one on PS4, and the rest PC. I asked Mandy about it and they did not know their platforms. So they very likely are all on PC.
For the purpose of getting and handing out codes, auric cells, and the like it seems they can only do this through Steam, plus the PTB's run through there as well. All of which lends me to think console is and always had been an afterthought in all that they do.
Now that all together consolers outnumber PCrs, they suddenly have problems that they likely never wanted or intended to ever have to act on imo.
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I could be wrong but I think I've seen people say Puppers used to play on PS4 before switching to PC. Not sure if he was fog whisperer when streaming on PS4 though.
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I absolutely agree with that.
However, BHVR does respond to the community when there is a public outcry about something, at least in some regard.
When the UI was changed, people spoke out about it and it BHVR changed it into a much more user-friendly design.
Same with colorblind options, but that one seemed to more influenced by Twitter than by anything else. However, the point still stands.
Most content creators seem to not talk about Optimization much, and I think that is part of the problem.
Obviously, you are by no means obligated to make a video just because you have a platform, but you've certainly made videos with feedback and ideas in mind before, which like you said, won't affect what BHVR actually does.
The best thing we can do as a community is talk about this issue and not allow it to fade into the background.
I'd argue that this issue is much much more important than any balance issues at the moment, and yet there are numerous videos about those and none about this.
Like I said, you are by no means obligated in any way, but the only thing we can do is continue to talk about it until something is done.
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I reached out to him through YouTube, as I have no other way. Dunno how it will be received though. It's on his channel's Community page.
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Your voice carries weight with the community even if it doesn't directly with the devs, as does all of the larger content creators of whatever quality.
From what I've seen of your videos over the years (aside from playing lots & lots of killer) you are passionate about this game, it's current state, and it's future.
So are we, and just recently we have attempted to band together in gathering support to the actual performance of this game outside of NASA-strength gamer PC rigs, which should not be a requirement to run a 5 year old game well in our opinion.
I've heard in your vids you let out the occasional comment about lags here, microfreezes there, and frame drops everydangwhere. Other creators comment on those as they occur in their vids too, but no one i know of has dedicated an entire effort to game performance as a talking point.
These problems are much more pronounced on the consoles and lower-end PCs, in particular the prior gen systems that like 85% of us are still on.
I and many here would appreciate you considering our cause. Ty
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You said it much better than I could.
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You reached out to Puppers about Optimization or about whether or not he played on PS4 previously?
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About this post we've created here. I call it our cause!
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Ah, thank you!
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I know he used to play DBD on PS4 before switching to PC. When someone in his chat asked him about leaving PlayStation he said something like "Why play this game at 30 frames when I can at 130"
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Here's hoping he'll want to help us out. Think it would be good coming from big content creator that not only played on console but reason they left console was performance was not as good as pc.
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I mean, yeah.
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I hope so too.
The more people who talk, the better.
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Just one for today.
Should've been an easy hit, but once again, either the freeze or auto-aim screws me over.
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yeah this (BAD WORD) is unacceptable.
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There is no possible way that could have missed if the game didn't completely freeze.
I've had this happen multiple times per match and it can easily cost you the game.
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believe me it's happened to me too and it makes me wanna throw my controller.
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Couldn't really blame you.
It really sucks when the game works against you even though you played well.
It's incredibly tilting
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Well, about 35 pages now, I think it's fair to say we've past the last optimisation mega thread. And Whoopi do we got ######### all in feedback
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Beyond tilting, but sadly all too common.
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I used to play at 60 fps on high, now I literally cannot run that on low so I am forced to cap at 30 fps if I want a playable experience.
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1000
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I didn't think we'd hit 1K comments when I made the thread.
Here we are regardless.
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I believe the last was at around this mark when it was terminated.
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Unfortunately.
I've filled up my storage taking clips 😅
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One of the quickest to reach 1k!
I like that in a thread😊
...hope they let it continue on in all it’s passion and splendor😌
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I don't remember many other threads hitting 1K comments at all, I can think of maybe 3.
Either way, hopefully BHVR understands that people care about this issue.
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Maybe we should pass around the hat, take up a collection for an external or two for ya and the cause! :)
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Freezes like these (whilst attacking) have caused me to bump into corners with Bubba.
Needless to say I don't miss playing DBD. After around 5k hours in DBD I have now fully switched to Destiny.
I will still be active on the forums and see if something changes for the better but as long as the game runs like actual poop I will not touch it.
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Yeah, I do remember 3 as well.
Don’t recall the topic of the 1st;
the last one from 2020 was one of the plethora “nErF Spirit!” threads that gained more traction than the others through it’s aggressive nature and triggering content.
This discussion is healthy and significant, and the champion of the 1k+ Trilogy imo❣️
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We are the Revenge of the Sith of the 1K threads.
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⚡️☺️
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