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General Discussions
Is Jake gay? (Tome spoilers)
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That's a very bold assumtpion.
Feeling like an outsider or different to others is not a trait unique to lgbt, not even close to that. Not everything revolves around sexual preferences.
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Orientation, not preference. A preference would be saying you like short men. Orientation would be exclusively liking men.
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Not everything revolves around it but it’s important to many people.
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That's not the point, like at all.
It is used both ways; it's not incorrect to refer to orientation as sexual preference as a broader concept. By your terms, I meant orientation indeed.
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I’m not sure what your point is here then. There’s nothing wrong with speculating that a character could be queer.
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He could be or he could be not. Neither of the quotes indicates him being queer.
There's a whole set of reasons for one to feel excluded - childhood traumas, higher/lower intellectual capacities, family issues, race, health, being introverted overall, and so on. Different sexual preferences are just one of the many reasons somewhere in the middle of this list.
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You’re right, but as the devs have said a LGBTQ+ character is coming, it’s only natural to speculate that Jake may be.
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Iirc during one of their streams they said it is planned to be a new character rather than an update to an already existing survivor.
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Can you link this? Besides, they can do both.
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Nope, I absolutely can't remember when exactly it was said. It could as well be one of their textual announcements. Sorry.
Yeah, could be both. Subjectively I see it as unlikely, but who knows.
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Almost every survivor’s sexuality is vague anyway so make of that what you will.
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rainbow powered
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It does that for me as well...
...That's weird, i'm indeed not a moderator.
Anyway, the moderator comment is from MandyTalk on page 4.
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Jake + Quentin is canon
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Agreed, I am assuming you got locked up because of the misunderstanding. companies seem to only do things such as changing their logo to a rainbow just so people do not get mad which is disappointing
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My point here is, who cares? be what or think what you wish for a game character
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OP cares, and that's not a "point", it's a question.
Just because it's a fictional character doesn't mean there isn't an established lore. Harry Potter, for instance, isn't an Italian duke from the 14th century.
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There was no misunderstanding.
jake never was confirmed to be heterosexual so even if the tome story would imply or confirm he is gay it wouldn’t have changed anything, just added new info about the character. Which is the entire reason for the time story’s to exist. Giving more lore/background to the characters.
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I don't care and many others wont if Jake is gay, if he is, if people portray him as gay, fine, i don't know how this helps in the game, sex or gender shouldn't be a thing, if people say people as gay, straight etc my point is if people want or wish to believe in such then let them.
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No, the person assumed he was being homophobic. They were thinking it was just gonna be another character with no lore other than "they are gay"
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Too late, the game has had sexes since release (otherwise I couldn't know that the Trapper is a man, for instance), and sexual orientations since the Nurse.
You already know why people care, we've had this discussion many times before. What do you expect to gain from acting like we haven't?
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Because they said, and I quote:
I'm just saying that changing someone's orientation because of "diversity" and "representation" points alone and not just for the sake of having good backstory or character depth is a bad idea.
Note the word "changing".
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You need to calm down and not jump so fluently as you do on these sort of posts, the game has not been sexes at all, but really it is a game? it is not that vital or important for it to be jumped on, people wis and think to believe as they should. It is a fricken game who the hell cares! think I care what sex Abe is when I am on Abes new game.
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There definitely were homophobic comments. Nothing implied Jake would be another character with no lore other than „he is gay“, as he already had established lore without any mentioning and the thread itself was speculation as the tome story was all about that topic.
i am not saying the person is a complete homophobe. But they made more than one homophobic comments. I have read those.
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What the hell are you even saying here?
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I don't know how this helps in the game
Sexual orientations aren't for the gameplay, it's merely for the story of a certain character and for representation.
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Dodging the question and implying I'm the one with the problem so soon?
If the game didn't have sexes, I couldn't know that Jake and Dwight are men, nor that Meg and Claudette are women back when the game was released. You may not care, but other people do, as has been pointed out in every single thread of this nature. Again, what do you hope to gain by acting like this is new information?
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It is a fricken game who the hell cares!
Me, the people you're responding to and thousands of other people.
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My point is sexual orientation is not part of the game play, if you wish to think someone is gay, straight etc let it happen, think as you like about a character I felt it was obvious
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It’s a game, a medium in which the creators can express what they want and they can tell the story’s and create the characters they want.
the creators care, many people in the community care about lore, let them care if it is important for them. There is no harm in doing so, the opposite actually, good representation can help.
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Just for the record, I don't actually care. However, it is because I don't care that I support it, since it won't negatively affect me (or anyone else, for that matter), but will make some people happier. There is literally no downside to this.
People who don't care about something can't also be actively against that thing. People who claim not to care but are actively against LGBT representation do care.
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But we already knew it had no effect on the gameplay (and I don't recall anyone claiming otherwise), so you telling me or anyone else that is redundant.
We only wish for representation in the character's backstory or their tome entry.
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We all know what character is male or female, but sexual orientation is not needed in this game if you wish to think a certain character is so, go for it
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The lore isn't part of the gameplay, no, but it's still there for people to enjoy.
Why are you so up in arms about this if you truly don't care?
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Good point.
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I want Frank to be gay. And Oni should be asexual.
oh. Wait. Well. But let’s still exclude anything LGBTQ+ related, right?
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Nobody said it's needed, they said it's wanted. Just like how we didn't need any of the killers besides the 3 we had at release. Hell, we didn't even need the game, for that matter. But those things are wanted.
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Jesus Christ my point is if people understand it, let the characters be thought of how they are propesoed by players, stop jumping n some bs that isn't even true I am saying if you stopped and read! the characters of dbd think what you wish on their exuality if you are about the lore etc just have your own opinions i dont care on peoples opinions.
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The lore is the lore. If you want to write fan fiction, you still can, but there is a canon.
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why is it needed?
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Read what I wrote. I said it's wanted, not needed.
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stop jumping n some bs that isn't even true
Please explain to me what you're talking about in this sentence, what is "bs" to you?
just have your own opinions I don't care on peoples opinions.
So then why are you here?
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I think Jake being gay would be really fitting with his character, maybe its just me
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Jake park is he gay, who knows, believe what you want about any character but dont jump on me for bs
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That’s called headcanon and is always possible and will always be.
but what does that have to do with this topic at all? Sexual orientation, relationships, genders etc were pretty much always a part of this game. And with the amount of lore which gets deeper and deeper it’s to be expected that something not heteronormative would get mentioned officially in-game.
so why do you want to tell people - including the creators themselves - they shouldn’t care?
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Except BHVR has added in heterosexual relationships and excluded lgbt+ relationships and characters (ie. no enby/trans characters). So I'd love to headcanon Frank as gay but he's dating Julie pretty commitedly according to the lore. Oni has a wife and kid, Nurse has a husband that's an integral part of her lore, Felix has a girlfriend and was expecting a child, David had an ex girlfriend-
So, yeah, I'd love to headcanon that except I can't due to existing lore. BHVR literally admitted to actively excluding lgbt relationships last year and were going to make an effort to improve- and then partnered with a charity to do so. An lgbt+ character is coming and many people do care.
Sooooooooo yeah.
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As soon as anyoje mentions anything gay people jump on it, i dont care if jake is gay make your opinion so what is the big deal?
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Again, what is "bs" to you because your responses aren't making sense.
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that is not true, until people wanted it or addressed it
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You can keep believing what you want. Canon doesn't matter to fan fiction.
PS: Nobody "jump[ed] on [you]", you came in here of your own volition and keep engaging with everyone, despite claiming not to care about the subject of conversation or even our opinions. Quite curious that you claim we're the bad guys.
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