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Why is killers being weak suddenly okay?
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"people who don't know how to deal with them" - you know it's not true, but good attempt at pushing your narrative. It's based on all people playing DBD, not just those who don't know how to deal with killers.
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No, I mean who in their right mind would construct a tier list based on overall kill rates and therefore include all the people who don't know how to play against a particular Killer? That's utterly incompetent. Because, as I said, this runs into the problem of being meaningless for anyone who gets reasonably good at it.
Tier lists are generally made with above-average play in mind, just because that actually tells you something useful.
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Your best argument is a logical fallacy?
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Hey many if you want to argue he totally meant Artist wasn't actually better than Nurse, go ahead. He said she had more potential. which would imply someone who spent 5k hours on her should be better than Nurse. Kill rates mean nothing unless you think Nurse needs buffs. Cenobite is at the top because he stomps newbies who can't figure out the box and are at 1200 MMR. If you actually believe Pinhead is among the top 5 best killers, then we are so far apart that any arguing is pointless.
He has bad opinions and basically tries to state every killer released is extremely good. Then they turn out to suck or be really mediocre. People don't need to take his opinions as law. Otz says she's bottom 7. Scott says she's weak. Why don't we listen to them but we listen to the guy who has repeatedly been wrong and has a history of saying mediocre killers are godly?
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You don't have to listen to any streamer. I don't. I just pointed out, similar to you, that there are different opinions. But at the end, the only proof of ranking is stats. Nurse is right where killers should be at 50%. It's the other ones that are overperforming. You have a bunch of statements that are not supported by any stats. It's fine if you feel that way, but you do realize it's nothing more than your feelings. If you want to argue that Pinhead is not at the top, prove it with data. If you want to talk about specific MMR, show me how you determine your MMR as well as MMR of people you verse. Without stats or concrete numbers, it's all just hot air.
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There was no mmr comparison so you are still looking
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It certainly isn't getting 4 hooks and camping end game because there is nothing left to do.
It isn't protecting 3 gens for the entire game and then getting out attritioned because of a stupid boon.
It isn't Running around groaning storehouse small window loop 3 times and losing 3 gens because of it while every chase leads you there.
If they fixed maps and increased 2 man gen time to 60 seconds instead of 47, this game would be better..
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My argument is the simple one that tier lists aren't constructed around the entire scale of a game, they're constructed around what's meta and assume competent play.
In an RTS, a strategy with a particular faction might be incredibly powerful at lower MMR, but it could be easily countered by a more skilled player, and otherwise lack the tools to win once that strategy is negated. Therefore, people will rightfully say that this faction is low-tier, because of its poor performance in competitive play.
Or in a fighting game, it might be reaaaally easy to spam one attack at low play, and if you don't know how to counter it well, you get stunlocked and lose. But if that move sets you up to lose badly once countered, overreliance on it would still make it a low-tier character.
Taking the kill rate across the entire playerbase would be the same as saying the above two examples are high tier purely because they beat new players that don't know how to counter them. But that's not what tier lists are made around or how competitive games are balanced, so it's ridiculous to introduce it here and claim that a character is high tier because of the overall kill rates.
Pulling out (incorrect) links to fallacies is lazy.
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Killers today are vastly stronger than they were in 2016-2019. Just before boons was the peak of killer strength, and now they're a little bit below that. I don't know where you're getting the idea that there was a "sudden" change, because killers are still dramatically stronger than they used to be.
A C-tier killer can definitely win against any team with the right circumstances and prioritization. I still have a good winrate as Clown. Compared to 2019, this meta really isn't that bad. I'd much rather have the game as it is now than the old Mettle of Man scumbag meta.
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You can construct your tier lists around anything you want. I saw people constructing them around size of killers butt. As I said, without having ability to know your specific MMR, it's impossible to say who is "competent", if you are judging yourself. Some people think they are competent, while they are not, or the opposite. Without having any way to measure "competence", it large meaningless. But even if you could measure it, where do you draw the line? Tournament level SWF? Therefore, without metrics, the only tier list we can do is for average player, because this is the only thing that is supported by official stats.
"poor performance in competitive play." - as in tournaments? The highest level of competition? Tournaments where Kinship was one of most used perks and most killers proxy camped? LOL :D How is it even remotely relevant to most people? Why should people care about tier lists that are not applicable to overwhelming majority of players?
Btw, the link is correct. What's lazy is making a lot of claims without any proof.
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Its okay hes just a troll atp
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Ad hominem
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But then what is? my question wasnt ever what it wasnt
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A game where you earn 30k bp and it is a toss up on who wins or loses with everyone on death hook and scrambling for the exit gate.
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