Banned for Intentionally Deranking (not me but a friend)

@inkedsoulz said:
Don't have fun bullying weaker survivors(its lame)---wants to have tough matches---All the best survivors you know are at lower rank because they derank.

Are you implying that you derank because you want to face them more often?

Then you should encourage all those survivor streamers or good survivor players to stop deranking, since they doing it will influence a lot of their viewers/other people to do the same. if none of them deranked you wouldnt need to derank in order to find more tough matches.

I don't know how many times I have to repeat the same sentence: I derank for faster queues. Before the emblem system, I never deranked because queues were faster. The end.

@Orion said:

@ScottJund said:

@inkedsoulz said:
Don't have fun bullying weaker survivors(its lame)---wants to have tough matches---All the best survivors you know are at lower rank because they derank.

Are you implying that you derank because you want to face them more often?

Then you should encourage all those survivor streamers or good survivor players to stop deranking, since they doing it will influence a lot of their viewers/other people to do the same. if none of them deranked you wouldnt need to derank in order to find more tough matches.

I don't know how many times I have to repeat the same sentence: I derank for faster queues. Before the emblem system, I never deranked because queues were faster. The end.

And by doing so, you cause longer queues.

That is...not at all how that works. Rank 1 two days after rank reset on killer - 5 to 10 minute queues. On survivor, instant queues, every time.

@knell said:

@ScottJund said:
I don't know how many times I have to repeat the same sentence: I derank for faster queues. Before the emblem system, I never deranked because queues were faster. The end.

I think inkedsoulz is saying that if you are deranking for faster queues because all the best survivors are also deranking, then you (and those deranking survivors) should just stop deranking, and encourage everyone else to stop deranking - so that you would be able to face each other at the appropriate rank, along with all the other Rank 1-3 folks who don't derank in the first place.

But if you are saying that this isn't enough - that even if all the red ranks stops deranking and you are all where you are supposed to be, that this still isn't creating fast enough queues for you, and that you need to play with the bigger pool of lower ranked players (who would actually be lower ranked players if people stopped deranking) to keep your stream going, well then, you don't really care about stomping on people who can't fight back, do you?

Or not care enough about them to inconvenience your queue time.

In this hypothetical situation if I had to choose between stomping new players and waiting in lobbies more than playing the actual game, unfortunately as a streamer yes I am going to choose stomping new players. #########, I know, but I don't really have any other option other than just play survivor, which I don't want to do much.

Luckily that's not the reality and there are good and bad survivors on basically all ranks.

@knell said:

@ScottJund said:
In this hypothetical situation if I had to choose between stomping new players and waiting in lobbies more than playing the actual game, unfortunately as a streamer yes I am going to choose stomping new players. #########, I know, but I don't really have any other option other than just play survivor, which I don't want to do much.

Well, thanks for at least being honest about it. It's more obvious now to non-streamers like me where streamers' priorities lie. I think it's good that I ( and possibly others) understand what your perspectives are.

Trust me I'd much rather just have the old rank system where I could get perfectly fine queues at Rank 1.

@Kilmeran said:

@ScottJund said: See you in a week.

Fine, one more post just to put that to rest here and now.

If you mean the Blight event, then I'm afraid not. I'm already turned off the game as a new player. There's absolutely no reason, and no investment from me into the game, to feel any need to play the event.

I've returned to Overwatch, where I am enjoying Halloween Terror and a game that isn't so damned broken. I've been in Overwatch since launch, and will continue to be in Overwatch. I tried DBD, it didn't work out.

imma be honest I just wanted to bait you into posting again. Good luck in whatever game you enjoy next my dude.

ScottJund said:

I've heard a lot of people say that for console. Maybe console just has more survivors ranking up faster for whatever reason. I'm envious.

I'm at odds with the killer ranking system, to the point I want the old killer ranking back because I found it a better balance than what it is now. I also want the black pip gone for killers because the system is seriously screwing newer killers into zones where they should not be and so they DC and try to derank because seriously, they might have had a few good games, but the SYSTEM we have ranks them to where they are at a severe disadvantage.

I've literally been in green and purple ranks and seen 1 baby perk/pip killers get destroyed by full perk meta loadouts and items, and NO clue why they were up there until I noticed a fix(?) in the ranking system when this Spirit DLC came out.

You can pip without killing anybody!, you hook 4 times, max hit and destruction, barely have any deviousness, and you can pip! ARE. YOU. KIDDING. ME????

They ONLY way I found I was black pipping was not even hooking people at all! Before this DLC I could black pip just fine with 4 hooks, a few love taps, chase some dudes and let them on their merry way if I felt I was ranking too fast, but now I pip. EVERY. MATCH. I am NOT that good even, hell I have 3-6 whiskey shots and 2-3 beers in me while I am pipping, I handicap myself to be bad and I am still getting pips like I am good!

THIS is the problem, and those that want to play killer are getting screwed by the system, and there is such a grind for new killers every time we get a new DLC, so in order to catch up and have a fighting chance without their bootyholes torn asunder is by depipping, and they get banned for it.

I agree there is some folks that depip to harass other players, and YES they should take a time out. I even agree those streamers that ADMIT to depipping for "fun games and quick ques" should be banned in these waves as well, but I know they won't because companies love showing their greed side. But the fact is they made pipping for a killer SO damn ez that newer killers don't even need to kill to pip up is beyond mental, the devs are screwing players over then punish them when it is a good part their fault for making players WANT to do it.

But ya, going to cut it here. All I wanted to place in is that if they are ban waving people for depipping, it's their damn system that's making some do it, they say it's unfair for players that DC on them, but they need to pluck their heads out their butts and pay attention to WHY they are doing it and do something about it as well and not just blame the players.

PS: Grats on your reading skills! You Made Through This!

@ScottJund said:

@DeadByFlashlight said:

@inkedsoulz said:

@ScottJund said:

@inkedsoulz said:

@rha said:

@shasta said:
Bullying noobs for either side should be a big no no I agree with the ban

Wanting to play at lower ranks doesn't automatically mean bullying. The pipping system for survivor is so screwed up that it's easy to end up at a rank where it's absolutely impossible to enjoy the game.

Was watching a small streamer, plays DbD only occasionally, she's nevertheless rank 1. She played at rank 1 for 5 1/4 hours and escaped only twice during that time, once vs a meme Leatherface insidious-guarding his basement chest. Multiple times the killers had 4ks even before hatch was unlocked. Towards the end the only reason she kept playing despite being deeply frustrated was because she was hoping for one good match to finish off which never came. Despite playing hopelessly unsuccessful at rank 1, she didn't drop in rank either and when she dropped to 2, she was back at 1 the next game despite having a bad game.

I hate playing at higher ranks as well, mainly because the fellow survivors you get in solo queue are on the same skill level of those you get on rank 15 (red ranks didn't change anything), but the killers get better and better and fully perked out and totally tryhard I can't easily 1 vs 1 them anymore (which is necessary considering my teammates are mostly more of a burden than help). Moreover, almost every single game 3rd person got slugged to deny the 4th the hatch. Makes the last four minutes of the game terribly boring.

I am managing my own rank by simply playing at most one survivor game per day, and many days I don't play at all. Last season I managed to never get higher than 11. I would rather like to play more and not be forced into simply playing only one game every couple of days.

So you guys want to play against newbie killers, that chase you a little bit, but they are not able to catch you, just for your own enjoyment?

Maybe you are not trying to intentionally bully, but wanting to play at a lower rank compared to your own skill level just in order to have easier matches is like bullying for those lower rank players.

You guys really, really have to stop equating rank to skill level. Yes, it matters from like 15-20 because those are the genuine new player ranks, but once you get above that, while higher ranks will probably have a few more good players than not, it truly, truly does not make much of a difference. Everyone knows that equating your rank to skill in this game is something only new players do.

You said it yourself "...while higher ranks will probably have a few more good players than not..."

So you guys try to stay on lower ranks on purpose in order to avoid facing those extra "few" good players, just so you can have more amount of easy matches.

I do understand when people try to stay on lower ranks in order to get faster queues.
But staying on lower ranks just for the sake of having easier/funnier matches doesnt seem right to me(it might be fun for you, but probably not for the other side)

Maybe you will change your mind after you have been buliled by a SWF trying to learn a new killer.

What does SWF have to do with deranking?

Some people derank with their friends to generally be dicks in-game.

While a game is winnable with 1 smurf, it's not exactly winnable with 4.

But killers do the same anyway ("to have an enjoyable game"), so it's nothing unique to SWF.

@MhhBurgers said:
Devs aren't banning streamers so they aren't allowed to ban others deranking, I call BS on that.

Wrong, they ban based upon % of games played so either stop dcing so much or get banned plain and simple.

Holy #########, there's so many people in this thread with no self awareness.

You claim someone who deranks in a game is a terrible person, so you decide they deserve no respect, shouldn't be allowed to speak, and deserve to be personally attacked and insulted outside of the game. Yeah no, you guys are way more toxic and detrimental to the community than anyone who DC's.

You got to remember that's another human you're talking to. Imagine if you were in their shoes and groups of people talked down to you every time you spoke out about a game you enjoyed. I don't care if you agree or disagree with someone, but do it with a little respect and civility. If you dislike someone then be the better person, don't behave worse than them.

@Abyssionknight said:
Holy #########, there's so many people in this thread with no awareness.

You claim someone who deranks in a game is a terrible person, so you decide they deserve no respect, shouldn't be allowed to speak, and deserve to be personally attacked and insulted outside of the game. Yeah no, you guys are way more toxic and detrimental to the community than anyone who DC's.

You got to remember that's another human you're talking to. Imagine if you were in their shoes and groups of people talked down to you every time you spoke out about a game you enjoyed. I don't care if you agree or disagree with someone, but do it with a little respect and civility. If you dislike someone then be the better person, don't behave worse than them.

Yep, they're absolutely blind to themselves. It's the same people who constantly suggest buffs and nerfs out of nowhere for everything, they have no idea about this game and think insulting people constantly is an acceptable reaction to people DCing.

I don't condone DCing but you shouldn't be personally attacking and going after people because they do it, the ban system will do it's job if it has too.

@DeadByFlashlight said:

@inkedsoulz said:

@ScottJund said:

@inkedsoulz said:

@rha said:

@shasta said:
Bullying noobs for either side should be a big no no I agree with the ban

Wanting to play at lower ranks doesn't automatically mean bullying. The pipping system for survivor is so screwed up that it's easy to end up at a rank where it's absolutely impossible to enjoy the game.

Was watching a small streamer, plays DbD only occasionally, she's nevertheless rank 1. She played at rank 1 for 5 1/4 hours and escaped only twice during that time, once vs a meme Leatherface insidious-guarding his basement chest. Multiple times the killers had 4ks even before hatch was unlocked. Towards the end the only reason she kept playing despite being deeply frustrated was because she was hoping for one good match to finish off which never came. Despite playing hopelessly unsuccessful at rank 1, she didn't drop in rank either and when she dropped to 2, she was back at 1 the next game despite having a bad game.

I hate playing at higher ranks as well, mainly because the fellow survivors you get in solo queue are on the same skill level of those you get on rank 15 (red ranks didn't change anything), but the killers get better and better and fully perked out and totally tryhard I can't easily 1 vs 1 them anymore (which is necessary considering my teammates are mostly more of a burden than help). Moreover, almost every single game 3rd person got slugged to deny the 4th the hatch. Makes the last four minutes of the game terribly boring.

I am managing my own rank by simply playing at most one survivor game per day, and many days I don't play at all. Last season I managed to never get higher than 11. I would rather like to play more and not be forced into simply playing only one game every couple of days.

So you guys want to play against newbie killers, that chase you a little bit, but they are not able to catch you, just for your own enjoyment?

Maybe you are not trying to intentionally bully, but wanting to play at a lower rank compared to your own skill level just in order to have easier matches is like bullying for those lower rank players.

You guys really, really have to stop equating rank to skill level. Yes, it matters from like 15-20 because those are the genuine new player ranks, but once you get above that, while higher ranks will probably have a few more good players than not, it truly, truly does not make much of a difference. Everyone knows that equating your rank to skill in this game is something only new players do.

You said it yourself "...while higher ranks will probably have a few more good players than not..."

So you guys try to stay on lower ranks on purpose in order to avoid facing those extra "few" good players, just so you can have more amount of easy matches.

I do understand when people try to stay on lower ranks in order to get faster queues.
But staying on lower ranks just for the sake of having easier/funnier matches doesnt seem right to me(it might be fun for you, but probably not for the other side)

Maybe you will change your mind after you have been buliled by a SWF trying to learn a new killer.

What are you trying to say?
I honestly dont understand, please explain.