BHVR thanks for forcing me into crossplay
Sincerely, an Xbox Series X player.
Guess I'm still not playing until they fix this. Crossplay literally killed this game on Xbox. Can't match with other Xbox players if they have it on, it's on by default and 99% of the community is too lazy or too uninformed to turn it off.
๐๐ slow claps๐๐
Expect a really bad review of crossplay in your survey.
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I don't want to make light of your issue, I'm just curious, why should they turn if off ? Is it because playing againt other platforms is unfair or something similiar.
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I just don't want to play with PC or PS players. If I told you why I'd probably get banned from the forum TBH.
Maybe I will cross play as killer now with 60 FPS, but hell no am I going to play survivor with survivors on other platforms.
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Then you deserve all the queue time in the world.
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Crossplay is quite evident in the score screen, so it's not that 99% of players are "too lazy or uninformed" to turn it off. More likely, they just don't think the long queues are worth it.
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You can't play with people on your platform if they have crossplay turned on and you have it off or vice versa. The icon has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
I play on Xbox with crossplay off, and I can ONLY match with other Xbox players that have if off too. If they have it on we can't be put in a game even if everyone is on Xbox anyway.
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Yes I deserve to wait for games because half of the population of my platform is in another matchmaking pool.
Do you actually read what you type before you hit enter?
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I know what you're talking about. My point is that people know they have crossplay enabled; it's self-evident. Therefore, my conclusion is not that they're uninformed or lazy, but rather that they prefer having it on.
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If they don't know what it means that suggests uninformed.
If they don't care to change it to even try, that suggests lazy.
Love how ya'll just dismiss my problem with "oh well you deserve it for thinking the way you do".
Pretty much the exact reason I turn that ######### off.
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You have no evidence that they don't know what it means. I think any human being would be curious about the weird symbol and look up what it means.
Not wanting to change it is not the same as being lazy. Just because you would rather have it off (without suffering the consequences of longer queue times) doesn't mean the same is true of other players.
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Crossplay is awesome because my survivor queue times are now waay shorter than before.And i get to face/play with streamers more often too,which is kinda cool.Gotta give props to BHVR for being able to implement it without ANY issues at all.
I don't understand why you would ever turn crossplay off,especially of you own a next gen console.The only time i would turn it off is if i get faster queue times or another patch like 4.3.1 (Dead by PowerPoint presentation)
Pretty petty of you to leave a bad review only because you hate PC and PS players
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Not everyone cares about que times.
You get the worst matches on crossplay. There is a reason it is fast because you're getting matched with pretty much everyone. Maybe when MMR comes back it would be better but for now the only way I feel like I get games that have everyone of equal skill is on my own platform only.
I'd rather wait for a game that's a challenge than one where 3 of 5 players DC before it ends or players that clearly should not be in red ranks.
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Yes just like you have no proof they know what it means either.
For real the thread is not about why I don't play crossplay. It's about the devs fixing the problems on Xbox Series X and making it so that I can match with other players on my platform if they have crossplay ON, just don't put crossplay players in the game. So unless you are going to respond to either of those, just don't.
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That's not feasible or reasonable. Such a thing would effectively be imposing your choice to disable crossplay on everyone you get matched with, since they won't be able to match with people from other platforms either because you happen to be in the same lobby.
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That's not a crossplay issue though.
I see 0 difference between PC,Xbox or PS players in terms of skill.
Be upset about how easy it is to get to High Rank but NOT about crossplay.Those 2 have nothing to do with each other
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Wait why are you against playing with ps4 people? You're not gonna get banned for saying why, moderation is pretty arbitrary but not to that extent
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It would not because you can be put in a game full of Xbox players with crossplay on anyway. It could easily match me in games to fill in spots.
Furthermore I feel force to play with crossplay on if I want to actually play the game nowadays. So why is it okay to force me to do something I don't want but not okay to force other people?
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Yeah, thatโs one of the only two problems with next gen consoles (the other being trophies not carrying over, at least on PS5). Because of how hard they were to preorder, not that many people have a next gen console right now (it might even be worse for XSX because I saw a lot more hype for the PS5). Add most people not realizing or caring about the disadvantages of crossplay, and youโre in for a bad time. Unfortunately youโll have to either turn crossplay on or switch back to the XB1 version for now. Hope you didnโt get rid of it or the Series X allows you to switch between versions like the PS5 does.
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I don't see any reason to turn it off, the way this post comes across it seems to me like you think Xbox Gamers are the best or something, you implied in an earlier comment that reasons you don't want to play with crossplay will get you banned, so it's probably for the better that the majority of people have it on so they can avoid the toxicity.
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On the other hand, unless players like you were pushed to the back of the queue, which would likely mean you'd never get into a trial again, you would effectively be imposing your personal choice on everyone else.
Nobody's forcing you to have crossplay on. You have the choice to disable it, but you'd rather have shorter queues. This is very different from you showing up in a lobby and everyone else being forced to be matched as if they had crossplay off.
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DID I SAY XBOX PLAYERS ARE THE BEST?
No I didn't.
Love how I get bullied onto playing crossplay though. EXACTLY A REASON I TURN THAT ######### OFF!!
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What?
What do even consider as disadvantage,especially if you own a next gen console?
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Thank you. Someone that actually understands the problem and doesn't shame or bully me to play crossplay.
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How are we bullying you???
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"Nobody's forcing you to have crossplay on.ย "
Yes they are by turning on crossplay my pool gets smaller and smaller while theirs gets bigger. Eventually no one will be in my pool and I'm FORCED into crossplay if I want games.
If the crossplay option was OFF by default this wouldn't be a problem because then at least people would have to choose to do it instead of choose to not do it. And yes there is a difference.
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To clarify: as Otzdarva has shown, the sweatiest players turn crossplay off and have created their own private ecosystem of tryharding and borderline competitiveness on each respective platform, despite the fact that DbD isn't competitive in any real sense.
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Yes, exactly. But as a Series X player I'm forced to play with potatoes and trolls instead.
Literally just had a game where an Ash offered Lery's then decided to try and meme with the killer by looping around hooks. People just don't do that ######### on Xbox. He was crossplay. I don't want to play with him at all.
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It's still not a crossplay issue.
It's an issue about bad matchmaking/mmr not being here yet
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You didn't have to say xbox players are the best, but you specifically stated that the reason you don't want to playa against PS / PC players will get you banned, which implies it isn't for any real reason other than you don't like people from other platforms which is super irrational. This heavily implies you just think xbox players are the best.
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Am I the only one not understanding what the problem of crossplay is for Xbox players? I know of framerate/general performance issues for consoles compared to PC but OP doesnโt want to play against PS as well..
i mean, I would understand if Switch players complained..
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Where did he show that? Is there a video or something?
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Chance of running into cheaters (it's low but does exist), bad experiences with players from another platform (haven't had any personally but I know of people who have), or poor optimization (last gen only). Personally I only had it off because of poor optimization. Now that I have a PS5 I'll be turning it back on.
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There's pretty much no point in crossplay if we turn it off by default.
And people are definetely able to choose if they want crossplay or not.Most people just want to use crossplay.
I don't see any difference here.
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Yes they are by turning on crossplay my pool gets smaller and smaller while theirs gets bigger. Eventually no one will be in my pool and I'm FORCED into crossplay if I want games.
Only if people keep prioritizing shorter queues over excluding players in other systems. Otherwise, the reverse is true. Either way, no force is being used. You have the choice to decide for yourself what's more important: shorter queues or only playing with people using the same system as you. Personally, I chose shorter queues and would do so regardless of what the default status of crossplay happened to be.
If the crossplay option was OFF by default this wouldn't be a problem because then at least people would have to choose to do it instead of choose to not do it. And yes there is a difference.
If crossplay was off by default, you'd have the exact same problem, but in reverse, so this wouldn't solve anything.
Try to organize with people who feel the same way you do. Teach them about crossplay, disable it en masse and see if your queues are shortened. If you're right and most players are just too lazy or uninformed to do anything about it, then you'll have proven that crossplay is an unwanted feature (at least for your platform). If not, you at least have a small pool of players to get into lobbies with.
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Hmm,cheaters is a non issue honestly due to the fact how extremely rare they are (Only faced 1 cheater since crossplay and i play a LOT) and having really bad or sandbagging teammates doesn't seem to be different compared to the time before crossplay.
Poor optimization is the only real reason imo (for last gen as you said)
P.S: Congrats for the PS5 :)
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"If crossplay was off by default, you'd have the exact same problem, but in reverse, so this wouldn't solve anything."
Well if players are as informed and not lazy as you say then they would turn it back on.
The devs did this to force crossplay. It's pretty clear.
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You really think this is a crossplay issue and that there can never be an Xbox player that plays like that?
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Not every other game.
Once in 50 games maybe at red ranks. People don't play like this on Xbox at high ranks.
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I don't think you know what the word forcing means.
If you can opt out of it at anytime you want with the simple click of a button you're not forced into anything.
It people don't care enough to take it off that's not behaviour probably if you don't want crossplay on that's all well and good but you have to deal with longer lobby because you're encountering a lot that people.
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I agree, but in practice that's the issue.
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He talked about it on stream a bit, and I think he also mentions it in his 50 wins with bubba video (or at least one of the 50 win videos, but I think it was the bubba one)
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Yea because I have not nice things to say about them. Doesn't mean I think I'm better than them, there are actually different behaviors associated with each platform.
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Yeah.. sure.
just a troll post, I understand now.
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Crossplay has been a highly requested feature over the years, and it makes far more sense to have it on by default than to have it off, given that you can't really match players who have it off with those who have it on. Furthermore, everyone prefers shorter queues, which crossplay can provide. Even people who don't like crossplay (you, to name a relevant example) prefer to leave it on than to suffer through longer queues.
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Thanks, I'll check that one out
there are different stereotypes associated with different platforms that are usually contradicting and don't hold up to much scrutiny
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Sure,but it's just weird and silly that OP complains about the wrong thing in his/her post.
OP just makes it seem like he/she hates PS and PC players.
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First says...
Then says...
But yes you're not bullying me at all. ๐
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Am i wrong?
You complain about crossplay being forced and that players from other plattforms play worse than yours even though the real issue is that we don't have a proper MMR system yet/bad matchmaking.
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So then you admit we wouldn't have that problem in reverse.
Therefore it makes sense to do what I said and make it so that you can match with other players on your platform even if they have a different crossplay setting.
And since it would be low priority then we only get matched once all other options are exhausted. But then since I still my my own pool of non-crossplay players I can still potentially find games sooner.
It's a win-win for everyone. No one would be forced to play with crossplay off, they want it on for faster MM which they would still get.
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Did I ever say they play worse than me or that I'm a better player?
No I didn't. You assumed and then shamed/bullied me for wanting to play the game how I want.
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Gee considering that I can't play on Xbox Series X without turning ON crossplay is kinda forcing me to play crossplay. I literally have to crossplay with other Xbox players. The fact the game even launched in this state is unacceptable. Don't even mention the C word.
Also the fact that more and more people are switching over makes my non-crossplay pool smaller and smaller over time, which eventually means the only way I can ever find a game is to turn on crossplay. In other words I am FORCED to turn it on to play.
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