Survivors Average BP Gains Should Be Increased

I still think all living survivors should get a score event any time a gen is completed, regardless of what they're doing.

Indeed and people chose to not engage with the Killer, you get more points for engaging. Its a choice mate.

Completely wrong, you can get loads of chase by preventing the Killer in getting the other survivors.

Agree, there should be some sort of "focused" bonus if you find yourself in a game where you are the one doing the majority of x(gens, unhooking + healing, getting chased, etc.) That is a BP multiplier or just some flat bonus. Sometimes you end up being the gen jockey or the killer is tunneling you and you don't have a chance to do much of anything else.

I do like the idea floated above about certain events giving the entire team blood points. Each X that happens, all survivors not directly involved in X get Y% blood points(unhooking, gens completed, idk what else)

right... you get more points for coop .but Ill be on a gen and other survivor walk right past me. so I do a 4 solo gens and finish at the bottom. Doing a gen solo should get more bp. one of the main objectives to get through the match.

In general, all of my 'good' games, as survivor or killer, that involve a lot of variety in actions, where I/the killer don't camp and tunnel, multiple hooks are made, and regardless of escape/kill ratio, all of these games result in fairly equal scores between all players, survivors and killer. Because survivors are making multiple hook saves, multiple heals, and repairing multiple gens.

The cases where killer score dwarfs the survivors scores, is usually when camping and tunnelling are in play, or when the killer dominates the game and kills everyone too quickly at like 4/5 gens left, or when a player DCs/ragequits.

In the cases where survivors get low scores because they're eliminated quickly, it's a sad result, but it's not strictly 'unfair'. If you played for half the time, and only got half the score, so what? It's proportional. You get to the next game quicker where you can earn more BP.

In the cases where survivors get low scores specifically because they were camped, tunnelled or sandbagged, it's absolutely 'unfair'. It might be a quick game, but it may also not be a quick game, and either way, the low score will feel unjustified.

Increases to all BP gains on average, across the board, isn't the answer, as it would just end up giving survivors unearned higher scores in the 'good' games, which leaves the killer feeling hard done by for playing fairly. Instead, what there needs to be is additional score events in certain instances that mitigate the unfair 'loss' of BP when survivors are camped/tunnelled/sandbagged.

For example:

• 1000 Distraction BP score in the 'Objective' category, for each generator completed while you are; in a chase, or on a hook with the killer within 32 meters.
• 500 Distraction BP score in the 'Altruism' category, for each health state gained by another survivor while you are; in a chase, or on a hook with the killer within 32 meters.

This would mean that even if circumstances beyond your direct control prevent you from taking actions in the Objective and Altruism categories, you can still earn a varied score and get fair compensation for your role in distracting the killer from your team mates.

Additionally, this would encourage survivors who are camped/tunnelled to 'hang on' for longer, in order to gain more BP and give their team a better chance.

I would maybe add a caveat to this that you only guarantee a 1 pip on escaping, if the exit gates were powered.

It's entirely possible to do nothing all game and escape through the hatch or an exit after the hatch has been closed. That's not a 'win', and shouldn't be a pip.

Yeah, that's fair. Then only what you've done throughout the match would count. I mostly mean those games where something out of your control happens, yet you escape through the gates and don't get a pip cus the killers tunneled, camped or couldn't catch anybody.

Can we increase plague's BP gain while we are at it?

Please

Yes. Because sometimes, its simply not possible to do everything. You maxed out points in one category and at least for me, the motivation to keep doing that category goes down.

Come on now, not every down is gonna be a caging and Killers are allowed to be different too. That's what makes the game fun.

More points for no reason that isnt earned is bad cause it isnt earned by playing and engaging the game.

Plus if will give Survivors way way way more points to buy things on the bloodweb with. No thanks to that.

There are still chase points to be had, the idea you guys are trying to to put out there is false. Anyone can look avg. chase points vs that and see that people still leave with a substantial amount.

Wrong, loads of harm is being done.

The Healing Meta is crazy right now. Survivors don't need even more points for Medkits.

Generators are flying by I am seeing BNP very often and twice a game. Survivors don't need even more points for Toolboxes.

Survivors have enough for now and for a long time.

case then ill likely see them even more and used every game.

If the killer sucks you won't get jack for altruism. The only way to get decent points in objective is to run Prove Thy Self. Unless you escape your survival points will be a joke. Boldness is the only category not in a bad spot.

Killer gets more points because killer has to put in more effort. They have to chase all four survivors, hit all four survivors, hook all four survivors, kick all the generators, kick all the pallets, and use their power as much as possible. They get more points because they do more stuff.

If you're having an easy survivor match because the killer isn't good and you don't have enough points, then go mess around. Open all the chests, cleanse all the totems, loop him around for funsies since they're so bad. Wanna let yourself get downed and hooked so your teammates can get Altruism points?