Map Check-in: Disturbed Ward

I find it funny a lot of killers seem to think this map is Survivor sided, as a survivor I actually loathe it. It's in my bottom two with only Pale Rose ahead of it.

To me the problem, and a massive problem with a lot of the new and realm beyond maps, is the lack of variation. You always get the same one or two variations with the same gen placements, same pallets, same vaults etc. so even though the downstairs has some potentially strong areas they never are because the killers know about them and can very easily preempt what survivors are going to do.

A good example is the greenhouse window vault. Technically it should be a strong way to break chase but killers know where it is on every map and just head you off. Many times by the time I've vaulted and tried to run away theyve made it to the hole in the wall and head out in front of you. I think we need to bare in mind that good chases are supposed to discourage the killer from continuing and going to chase someone else.

Honestly I think with the current ideology seeming to be that BHVR want to make maps smaller they really need to compensate by having a lot more variation.

Badham has about 8 variations so it's always quite a fresh experience. Compare that to the likes of this map, Garden of Joy, Dead Dawg etc and its just a chore sometimes.

Pretty sure I have seen a Twitter thread for it as well and i guess whatever social network they are on is the same?

the community that actually wants to socially engage with the devs will probably be on any of these platforms anyways.. how would you try to reach the whole community otherwise? Keep in mind in-game news get often ignored anyways.

Would love for the main building to be redesigned a little to be a bit more fair on both sides - it's far too safe for survivors. Although outside of the building is a lot more fair - it just naturally makes survivors hover around main.

Compared to a lot of other maps it's not a really problematic map though - Would prefer swamp get looked at if given the choice but I just feel Asylum plays out the same each time I get it due to the design of the map.

As many said before, the map is a bit too big, the main building is easily accessable from basically everywhere around the map and it is also a really strong structure, safe pallets really good windows and so on.

look what i wrote above you. it can have 3!!!

Theme-wise I love this map. The feeling it gives me is one of desperation and futility. In almost every single trial that I play I try to imagine a story based off of the map, Killer, and Survivors. Every time I spawn into this map I imagine that we were wrongly imprisoned in the ward and we need to escape from the maniacal Killer. Depending on the Killer they can take on the role as warden, fellow patient, or even supernatural terror/ creature that killed everyone and that the Survivors are these punk people exploring the legends surrounding the building.

What is especially creepy are the gates that surround the map. It gives an almost fight for your life trapped kind of feeling.

The ceiling in the main building is also super sad. So many dead bodies. Add that with the dark swirls and it almost feels like you are losing your mind. It’s a really nice map and fun to play on. It’s one of the maps that usually packs a lot of suspense.

PS: I LOVE the ornate metal work throughout the map. It’s a nice touch.

Locker distribution must also be looked at. Basically a big clump in the middle then a wide semi circle around it. Dredge will struggle.

Best Never to limit space for consensus

66 posts to a discussion in 2 days, including non-insightful replies to posts, doesn’t achieve optimal results; even after a week or 2 when numbers increase, it’s still just majority of back-n-forth’ing.

Twitter as an additional option is good (though it’s often a plethora of off topic spam or troll posting about “add this skin” “nerf this” “nerf that”) as is the in-game News flash headlining topic forcibly visible before the menu, also a good feature.

Regardless, always Post everything, everywhere and as close to all at once as possible, making certain everyone socially engageable or not, has the opportunity to respond should they so choose

…and run it as a quick ‘choose A B C D E’ poll similar to those included in the Official DBD Surveys that w the option to type additional response.

there is a graphical update planned for early 2024 and those come usually with at least minor balance changes as well.

Swamp is the only realm left that didn’t get a rework yet so it’s very likely this is already planned.. and not too far off…

(though they didn’t mention it in the newest roadmap I think?? But I guess neither did they mention a new surv which is also confirmed..)

For m1 killers, the middle gen is difficult to defend since it takes so much time to get there, and by the time you do, the survivors have plenty of easy exits to be nowhere near by the time you get there. Since it's the middle of the map, losing that generator usually means losing the map since all of the other gens are so spread out from each other with the middle one missing. The ONLY saving grace the killer gets is if there is a 3 gen at the circus area. If not, it's game over for the killer the moment that middle gen upstairs us completed.

That’s a good question.

i thought it was mentioned in the year 8 roadmap but apparently it was not!

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/376065/i-revived-myself-from-the-shadow-realm-to-watch-the-7th-anniversary-live-stream

so… I don’t remember..

To be fair and sure very subjective, but gameplay wise swamp has always been lacking. Corners/edges are weird, main can on both be annoying especially for killer side. And i think graphically it’s the one of the map from back then that was the least aesthetically pleasing (or it already suffered from lighting/fog adjustments? Maybe i should look at swamp maps videos back on release)

edit: just did exactly that and yeah i loved the aesthetics back then. Still don’t like the colored tints especially for Macmillan but for Coldwind, Crotus and Swamp they were decent and the fog, lighting, Depth of Field etc was so good… sad that was changed this drastically.

Now you know a bit of how I feel, friend.

I am desperately hoping BHVR will release a classic mode or classic pack eventually, otherwise I'm doomed. There won't be a single map in the game that I enjoy.

is it really that hard for you peeps to get 4ks on this map? -not tryin to be mean just askin

personally i do agree with a slight nerf to the main but also a few (like 1-2) more loops on the edges of the map

For survivors - it has some very strong pallets/tiles. Even in areas you'd normally consider dead zones running from tile to tile, there can be pallet spawns.

For killers - gen placement should be looked at. There shouldn't be 2-3 gens in the center of the map (2 inside, 1 right outside towards shack).

Its one of my favorite maps as killer and survivor, because it has some good spots for survivor but also some good spots for killers. Please dont destroy this map.

Old DBD really had a distinct look to it. It was beautiful and you would recognise these maps despite some of the textures having an objectively low quality. If it wasn't for the vaults and pallets though, I wouldn't be surprised to find many of our current maps in a FPS game. They don't scream DBD in the same way that they used to. Which is pretty sad because it makes these maps very forgettable.

If they ever released a classic mode, I doubt I would play normal mode again.

I agree fully. The old lightening and fog of DBD use to look so much better than the current one we got with each realm beyond update. The graphics might be better, but the ambiance is lost...

I don't know wich one is worst : disturbed ward or Coldwind ¿ They are so bright and dull now, it's a real shame. We can't even see the moon anymore, when it was supposed to be the only light source... I don't get why they didn't stick with their original art direction.

As you said, if only they would release an optional pack to have old lightening and fog... I would even pay for it, and I wouldn't mind if it gives me a disavantage over people having the current lightening.

Anyway. Back to the topic I guess : map is okay gameplay wise. Not perfect, but not problematic either. I don't think it really favor killers nor survivors more.

The main problems I have with the map is the fact that the main building is extremely boring to play against as a killer due to it being a lap around in a circle with multiple god pallets that you 100% have to break. Also the fact that Boil Over makes that map unbearable should be taken into consideration by putting a hook in the upstairs of main building.

Balanced Map. Please do not update.

Every map doesn't need to be the size of a postage stamp. It's causing massive issues with gens spawning right next to each other. And as others have stated, this map already has some bad 3 gen issues. Shrinking every map to dead dog size makes them all feel repetitive and boring. Are you ever going to go back and fix some of the disastrous reworks like Rancid that are nearly unplayable for survivors?

Also agree with others that the lighting, lack of fog, and general morder-ness could be improved.

Why would a map feel repetitive just because of its smaller size? Big maps are a huge issue for killers without mobility and the map size does not necessarily provide for problems with 3 gens, since they basically appear on all maps regardless of size.

Maps don't need to be super small, but they should also not be as big as mothers dwelling...