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Bodyblocking and holding the game hostage - not so black and white?

ConsAnthroid
ConsAnthroid Member Posts: 43
edited January 18 in Ask the Community

The longer I think about it the more unsure I am about it, so maybe someone can quote a dev on the matter.

What happened:
Game where killer didn't play. We just did the gens and then went to escape and go for next. Or at least so we all thought, but in cases like this I always cleanse all 5 totems, because I did encounter people doing cheeky stuff with surprise noed and then boast "Typical survivor main, dumb enough to not counter the easiest to counter perk which was nerfed multiple times already" - so yeah, I always cleanse these to shut them up.
When final gen popped it turned out that Wraith was bodyblocking the Obsession, killed them with Rancor and then cloaked and left us be to leave the game for free.

I am not going to comment about why or is it fun for everyone - that's not the point and I don't care.
What is interesting is discussion the killed survivor started (it was more like rude yapping with more slurs than other words from the survivor side - surprise surprise, end game chat was always trash in this game for some reason).
His argument was that bodyblocking like this is reportable and bannable, because killer held the game hostage.
Wraith just told them to try and report it and be laughed at, because he didn't hold the game hostage as it was strategy to kill him with minimum effort.

In all honesty I can't find a flaw in this logic, because 3 survivors were free to push the game forward and win so Wraith didn't hold the game hostage for anyone really as he killed that survivor as soon as final gen popped.

If he blocked them for long after the final gen popped then yes, I would agree this could be a case for holding the game hostage, but as it was in that game - I don't think it applies.

So is this reportable or not? Stupid, uninteresting and boring - yes. But reportable?
Edit: Okay I phrase it wrong. People report the dumbest stuff all the time. The real question is - Can this Wraith get banned for doing that?

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  • Jay_Whyask
    Jay_Whyask Member Posts: 934
    Answer ✓

    That's not reportable. The game will eventually end, which means it's technically not holding the game hostage.

    Also I'm certain that's not even possible anymore, survivors are supposed to lose collision after getting AFK crows.

    Meaning the obsession Rancor'd themselves by moving around too much.

  • random1543
    random1543 Member Posts: 579
    Answer ✓
    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/462918/bodyblocking-and-holding-the-game-hostage-not-so-black-and-white

    I would agree with other guy and say its not bannable.

    I think they need to update the game rules page and remove the hold game hostage from rules page

    Only thing I can think is "holding the game hostage" outside of hacks is glitches like xeno getting stuck in the gallows on dead dog and then survivors not doing gens but that would fall under bug abuse and other hold hostage situations would fall under hacks

    … as writing this realized there is the abandon if gens have not been done in 10 mins, so I cant think of anyway someone can "hold game hostage" in current dbd outside of hacks.

  • SoGo
    SoGo Member Posts: 4,513
    Answer ✓

    I agree with everyone here.

    Is it cringe? Absolutely.

    Is it ban-worthy? Nope, because it can be circumvented.

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  • ConsAnthroid
    ConsAnthroid Member Posts: 43
    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4047131#Comment_4047131

    Oooh I didn't know that, had a pause of around 2 years.
    Okay so with that you are absolutely right, it's definitely not holding the game hostage. Especially if survivor can literally counter it lmao.

  • random1543
    random1543 Member Posts: 579
    edited January 20

    Sorry but wanted clarification if possible

    We have AFK crows that give you no collision when you gain 3 crows, so the survivor that is body blocked could wait till they get three crows too "prevent" the situation from continuing without help from anyone else.

    There was a patch note that says "preventing the killer from holding Survivors hostage" but they can still be banned when there is a system preventing it?

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4047212#Comment_4047212
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  • ConsAnthroid
    ConsAnthroid Member Posts: 43
    edited January 22
    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4047212#Comment_4047212

    With all due respect, but what you are saying makes no sense, sir.

    1. Afaik the survivor could still repair that one gen there were bodyblocked at.
    2. Other survivors were able to finish the game quickly no problem.
    and the most important which literally contradicts you, sir
    3. With the afk crows survivors are able to free themselves at any time if they actually want to.

    They are able to prevent this very easily and can resume playing the match at any time. So by the logic you presented here this shouldn't be bannable. Unless there is something I don't understand about the crows.
    With this system it is literally impossible to hold the game hostage - unless it is not working as intended?

  • ConsAnthroid
    ConsAnthroid Member Posts: 43

    @random1543 It doesn't make sense to you either, huh?

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 24,856

    The fact that a player has prevented a player playing the game enough so that they've been forced to get AFK crows is not an issue for you? It will always be seen as griefing on our side.