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I second what @NullSp3c said about the second idea: Legion should ultimately be a rush killer, not a sneak one. We already have Ghostface comparisons!

I propose that we take the same concept of Mob Mentality but instead the member seizes and holds the survivor in place for the player to stab. Every player in the map gets a scream notification, the killer sees the aura too. The grasp is inescapable except through other flashlight or cracker saves, if the survivor has a cracker themselves, or if the survivor “wiggles” like normal and claws at their hand or elbows them in the face - this would disable the trap, I think this would be more in line with Legion, it’s lore friendly, and probably won’t require as much code spaghetti as making accurate ai.

I hope they will see.

Be careful about bumping threads. It's in the forum rules.

Some of them most definitely seen it but they def won't comment for multiple reasons.

• If they comment on one thing then people would rightfully expect them to comment on everything, which is obviously an unrealistic expectation, noone has that much time.
• The opinion of one dev does not reflect everyone's feelings on the matter.
• They also prob don't want to influence our thought process too much

I certainly understand your feeling, uncertainty and apparent lack of care sucks but that's just how things are.

And I def share your excitement about the whole Mob Mentality thing, I have this mental image of being able to order a Legion member to take cover around the corner, like how Haytham is standing here: https://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/assassins-creed-3/a/a6/Assassins_Creed_3.Screenshot.29.jpg

And that'd be so cool.

This sounds like a very cool concept. It would make Legion way more appealing to play as.

I especially like the idea @pemberley proposed, about the team member holding the survivor for the main player to come stab, it's extra brutal and I'm sure it would be less buggy then trying to make a npc Lunge and hit a survivor, especially when you consider they can employ tactics that cause a human to miss hits.

Maybe a stipulation would be that they have to be placed next to a collideable object as to mimic them hiding in cover.

The appearance and disappearence of the team members would be hard to do smoothly with eyes possibly watching from all angles so I think the puff of smoke would be the simplest solution.

None the less, I hope to see some of these ideas throughout the entire thread in what is hopefully a inevitable Legion rework.

Another thing that would be good about incorporating all team members into Legion's power is that it would really help my suspension of disbelief!

In one game, I'm a survivor being chased by a disfigured beast of a man with a chainsaw who eats people and I'm scared, then in the next, I'm a survivor being chased by a monster who has a face full of razor-sharp teeth and I'm scared, then in the next, I'm a survivor being chased by a teenage girl with a pointy ruler and I'm ... wait, what?!?

However, if that teenage girl was accompanied by three other teenagers hiding somewhere with knives, I actually would be scared. :)

I just thought of this idea, and I think it's better and makes more sense, and completely removes mending altogether. I'm interested in what you think.

What about instead of Feral Frenzy applying Deep Wounds, it applied Marked for Death. MFD lasts 60 seconds. That gives you 60 seconds to use Mob Mentality. 

Then survivors no longer need to worry about mending, and the killer no longer needs to worry about using MM before the survivor mends. 

And for slowdown, Legion's add-ons can be changed this way:

Nasty Blade: Applies a considerable penalty to Sabotage, Healing and Repair Action Speeds for survivors affected by MFD

Filthy Blade: Applies a tremendous penalty to Sabotage, Healing and Repair Action Speeds for survivors affected by MFD.

Oh, that's a good point about the name; I didn't even intend that. :)

You asked -- "The main thing that would make me think is why would people remove it"? --

so I apologize for not making it clear -- Survivors cannot remove MFD, like they can with DW. The survivors would have that mark on them until the 60 seconds ran out or Legion used MM.

2) Why do you think survivors would complain about being MFD?

Maybe I'm not considering something, but I think they would be much happier with this than having to mend.

As for a slowdown for MFD being base kit, I don't think it would be necessary as Legion would be much more lethal, making his slowdown the ability for him to end chases quickly.

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However, as compensation, I think this could work for Nasty Blade & Filthy Blade -- Applies a considerable and tremendous penalty, respectively, to Sabotage, Healing and Repair Action Speeds for 60 seconds after survivors are inflicted with MFD.

That way Legion can use his Mob Mentality power within 60 seconds and survivors will still suffer the NB and FB debuff for 60 seconds.

@UlvenDagoth  -- Thanks for pointing me to this.

I like this idea too!

I'd make it so the person being held is exposed. That way the survivor is downed in one hit regardless if they are injured or not if Legion catches them this way.

You could have 4 separate killers, 3 hiding in the cupboards and 1 you control. Basically you can switch control by entering a closet allowing you to switch to one of the inactive killers (similar in nature to a demigorgon teleport but you have to have positioned the legion), and if a survivor opens a closet with a legion inside it restrains them until you go collect them, they wiggle free or a survivor frees them (similar in essence to trapper's traps).

Largely his/her kit could remain the same, but i think with proper usage this could give legion better map presence and pressure, while making closet use a bit more risky, plus i think it fits the we are legion underlying story.

EDIT

just been informed WickedMilk03 has a more fleshed out version of this.

nuff said boyz