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They’ve tried one of the main solutions already: make the mmr brackets way more strict. This way the tunneling blight with 4 slowdowns can be paired up with the equally sweaty swf more often. The main issue is that there’s no consistency with the quality of teammates because the bracket is so vast.

Map offerings should go or at the very least sacrificial ward needs to change to common rarity.

How many games do you win or 2k out of every 10 games you play? My guess like the majority of players who play killer, your win rate is above 50%, you rarely 2k and you rarely flat out lose (3 out or better).

Hoping that rework gets pushed to 2026!

I’d say the game is more perk/intention sided than anything else. If you have a 4 man swf with stacked perks and addons who want to Gen rush (and have 1-2 people who can loop the killer for a least a minute at a time), the average killer will lose. If you have a killer with 3-4 slowdowns who proxy camps, tunnels, and has…

with resurgence and a medkit with the 2 skill check addons = a ~3 second self heal if you can hit 1 skill check. I love running wicked + resurgence + head on. It’s super good. Pretty much instant heal, jump in a locker and then stun the killer if they come back to the hook.

Huntress 100% does not need 7 hatchets base kit. Missing should eventually have a downside. It should not be that she is basically guaranteed a hit because you can only dodge but so many times.

It would not be fair to essentially give the killer a free kill just because the 2v1 situation is unwinnable for the survivor side. If you’re going to do that, you might as well make it so that once the first survivor gets downed, they are instantly sacrificed, the games ends and the last survivor gets an escape. Then at…

The problem is that in a 2v1, unless the last Gen is almost done, doing gens isn’t actually progressing the survivor objective. It’s just ensuring they get found and killed lol. A very common scenario: someone gets camped/tunneled out with 4 or 5 gens left, next person gets caught and gives up on hook so now there’s 2…

If killers shouldn't be forced into risking an escape, survivors shouldn't be forced into a certain death. If there's not enough progress on the last gen or there's more than 1 gen left when it comes down to a 2v1 situation, it's virtually impossible to finish the gens. Hiding is the only way that there's a least a chance…

I think this is happening for two reasons: 1. The mode has been out long enough for players to start figuring out how to optimize the fun out it. At the end of the day, people play to win and will use whatever strategy that helps them win the easiest. 2. There's not as much RNG built into 2v8 as you would think. It only…

if this is the devs testing a new mechanic to deincentivize hard tunneling people out early, then I’m all for it. This is especially true when you get the comp wannabe blights/nurses who stack 3/4 slow downs and stand 15 feet from the hook against solos. I’d actually go a step further and also add in a catch up mechanic on…

This. Missed chainsaw? No problem, just rev again. Missed again? No problem, rev again except even faster and more unreactable. Got a hook? Great. Run away from pain res hook for a second to get grim embrace and then immediately sprint back to chainsaw the unhooker. Rinse and repeat for maximum effective.

Am I the only one who does not find using the sweatiest builds on blight/nurse etc and relentlessly tunneling/camping to cheese win streaks even remotely impressive? lol.

Can we please stop with the false line of thinking that buffing Gen defense will reduce tunneling/camping. It won’t. It will incentivize it because now people who want to tunnel/camp have more time to do so.

7 hatchets feels like it gives too many chances and then she can just hold the wind up to zone you as well. The buffs seem unnecessary. She was already pretty good before the buffs.

Memory/keeping track of what’s going on in the match is absolutely part of having game sense.

I’d be okay with that. Only things I would definitely want to keep on the survivor side are the chase claws and gen icons for solo q purposes.

or how about we stop with the hand holding and actually require game sense? Both sides already have UI prompts, aura reading etc that help out a ton. Let people have to use their brain every now and then please.

This assumes all survivors on the team are doing this and are somehow still being efficient on gens (searching for items and running to corners wastes a lot of time). As a solo q player, I have yet to see this happen. More often than not, at least 2 items are left where they are and as such the killer gets aura reading…

This is not much different than people slugging for the 4k when they don’t know where the other survivor is. People want a chance to survivor and killers want their kills. Your solution could work if the gate time also speeds up so there’s a realistic chance for both people to escape through the gate. Otherwise a hatch…

Or how about just get rid of map offerings since perfect map balance will never be a thing? We all know that's the number 1 reason why people DC at the loading screen.

The combo is annoying but as others have said, as soon as you realize it’s in play, all items should be used, then dropped in a corner and forgotten about. And if you are forced to loop near a corner with a dropped item, at least you know your aura is being shown because of the icon.

you may be the first skull merchant main to actually admit you log on to the game to ruin other people’s time 😂.

it’s not just against vecna. I had it happen against a huntress. Running DS is a total gamble at the moment.

Had this happen to me twice. If the bug triggers the only way out is for the killer to down you. I just died to EGC because of this. Floated around trying everything I could but then made the mistake of getting into a locker. I was glitched there until the timer ran out.

and the thing about those statistics (and most statistics) is that they don't tell the full story. If it's only 1 survivor surviving 40% of the time, it means survivor side team is losing the overall game (meaning the killer is getting a 2k-4k) even more than 60%.

drop drone leave loop with 20 status effects will never be enjoyable. Plus 9.5/10 sm do end up playing in a way that makes the match miserable (which is their right to play any way they want). Lastly, the time investment to beat a sm is generally not worth the effort.

not to be a jerk but without video proof, I’m 100% certain that this is an exaggeration. You would literally have to afk and/or not win a single chase in a reason timeframe for that to happen in regular match.

Agreed. Map offerings are generally brought so one side can do a cheesy YouTube strategy on an unbalanced map lol

It was most likely nerfed because in a lot of cases sloppy is just used to make tunneling even easier (which is still the case because it does not take 90 seconds to find the person who was unhooked). Also most people don’t necessarily choose to stay injured for 90 seconds so you will get the same value from mangled and…

Almost every game is Pain Res, Grim Embrace, Pop, Corrupt etc anyway. Adding it to the loading lobby would purely be for dodging. That being said, swfs are still losing the majority of games. Sure you may run into that killer swf every now and then, but that’s not on the regular.

If you are getting surge 8 times, that’s 8 downs. Are you winning said games or nah?

Apparently 😂.

No what I’m saying is by the time you’ve kicked the same gen 8 times, the game should almost be over. Unless you’ve done nothing but protect a 3 gen from the start, this will almost never be an issue.

If you’ve kicked a gen 8 times, that’s a minimum of 40% regression before accounting for any perks or regression time after the kick. How many times do you really think you need to kick 1 gen in a match?

The majority of games that take place are not 4 man swfs. An “average team” is not representative of the average game.

The only way to effectively stop tunneling/camping is for it to be harshly punished ie it has to cost them the game the overwhelming majority of the time if they try to do it. The devs have already said that these are strategies that they approve of. Which means, nothing will be done to completely stop it.

What metric are you using to even hint that survivors get free escapes? What do you think the solo q win rate is (by win rate i mean 3 out or better)? Despite what people on this board try to pretend, you are not playing against tournament swfs 99% of the time.

B tier based on what? Getting more than 1 or 2 out against her is extremely rare from what I’ve seen. And that’s whether or not people give up. The drop drone get free injure or force them to leave loop and get free injure, is very effective and easy to win with.

I don’t know why people keep saying it’s intended to stop face camping when it can’t even do that. Tombstone Myers can completely bypass the system if he wants to lol.

You say that as if you are kicking gens 8 times before it’s complete lol. By the time you have to kick an individual gen that many times either everyone will already be dead or your 3 gen should be broken. In short, it’s not common to get 8 regression events on one gen.

Yep I knew about the wiretap one and then thought “wait, then can’t we all just use this to completely prevent gen kicking all together?” If all survivors started doing this, it would become meta overnight.

The base game is the problem. If mmr worked perfectly, once you get to a certain level it would be like “comp” dbd. Which is to say it would be horrible for the most part. It would mostly be tunnel 1 person while survivors try to gen rush. Basically how it is right now.

7 minutes against a swf with full gen rush builds and splitting up ion gens is slow. Imagine if it wasn’t a swf with those builds. My guess is you would have easily won.

The auto injury needs to go too. Deleting her all together would also be nice 😂.

If you play killer and are even mediocre, I guarantee you are winning the vast majority of games with or without tunneling. I’ve played both sides for years and I can confidently say that unless you are playing a coordinated group or you mistakenly chase the wrong survivor at the start of the match, you can win 60%-80% of…

I know but I don’t know why they even need to watch it. We saw what happened with old eruption. We saw what happened with overbrine.

Right and how often does that coordination happen without being in a swf? Think about how often when you solo queue does the team 3 out or better? It’s rare. People tried to defend overbrine/Eruption as well and we saw how that turned out.

Who says you have to spread pressure. You can just as easily use the block time to proxy camp with no fear of gens getting done. And painres/pop on top and it becomes even easier to make it a 3v1 and then impossible to complete gens.