SharonPancakes

I think they've made it clear (by their actions or lack thereof) that what you can't stand about the game is intended.

No I don't think I know why it's disliked, at least not why you say. It is disliked because it is any easy explaination on why a killer didn't down a survivor faster. Now that can be true but it's such a low level crutch in that aspect I feel it is a non-factor. If you want to blame WoO on your loss you're just not very…

Because survivors that are working together all play Fortnite? Or are you saying anyone that doesn't play your role aren't allowed to try to win without being children?

As you said at high level it's a non-factor, at low level survivors are at a huge disadvantage most matches. All WoO does is make inexperienced killers get better. If survivors can hold W and get to windows/pallets and win it's a skill issue on the killer side most of the time. Complaining about WoO is worse than…

All he's saying is if survivors can find a window/pallet he can't get a 4k as much as he likes.

I think 40 - 45% is overall survivor escape rates. I would think solo survivors would be significantly lower. We'll never know the real stats as BHVR won't include suicides/dcs in the stats. But suicides/DCs sure count in real matches, go figure. What a joke this game is for solo survivors.

Because it doesn't, it's strong for new players but it's really strong if you're solo and you don't know what your team has used already. The fact that you think it plays the game for you shows just how inexperienced you are at the game. If WoO annoys you it's because you're a new killer or just really bad at the game.

Sure me too, I've been surprised occasionally. Regardless, I don't care to play a match out if I'm 99% certain it's a loss. The 1 out of 100 games were I'm wrong are not worth it.

I think the population dip is mostly solo q players, which would explain longer matchmaking for survivor.

I think the ops point was the game was unwinnable. At least from their perspective. I have no problem going 3v1 when my team is actually playing.

In your favor and 99% unwinnable are different things, your point of view is delusional. I think you should apply at BHVR and help with future game design/balance, you'd fit right in.

OMG just play Nurse silly, or maybe if you don't know how to play the tile just leave and chase someone else.

They're both extremely strong against ######### teams, which is 90 percent of matches. I would go for Bubba just in case the devs ever grow a brain and remove Myers broken addons.

The truth is if you struggle with swf you're just bad at the game, and that's ok. But when you try and say survivor has an advantage under most circumstances it's kind of a joke. I don't fully blame you, I blame the devs for making such a horrible imbalanced game were you're matched with solo/duo q survivors that don't…

Yeah 5 minutes, just going to get worse unless they can get a popular IP for the next chapter.

"We cannot, CANNOT keep asking BHVR to just nerf every Killer we find even mildly annoying to go against. Come on now, have some faith in your abilities." Abilities have nothing to do with it, or should I say little to do with it. Nurse (and any of the many killers that were stronger than SM at her peak) do not make at…

If they're going to keep in awful mechanics that players can exploit to waste other players time they should at least add a vote to forfeit.

The game allows killers to "hump" and survivors to "teabag." Must not be toxic, lets not use the excuse that just because the game allows it makes it not toxic. I think most the toxicity comes from bad game design, balancing, and matchmaking.

No.

Solo survivor is not fun, and it hasn't been for a long time. Devs don't care, obviously most their revenue comes from swf and killer mains.

Oh man the Twins release, epic. I was still playing on ps4 and the game was a mess, unplayable. I upgraded to ps5, I don't know how performance is on ps4 now, or switch lol. I expect last gen is still awful performance wise. Not like this game requires precise timing or anything.

Off topic but in regards to BHVR response on twitter which I don't feel like responding to directly solo q MMR system has been garbage for years, rank based was better. The constant killing on hook and dc's are a direct response to bad matchmaking. Not saying it's the only reason but I believe its the most prevalent. I…

I dunno, did they tell you what they wanted?

People do blame the devs, however they do nothing and actually don't even acknowledge the problem. I would like to say that if you insta-down the first survivor in 5 seconds and they kill themself on hook and the rest of the survivors just stop trying and you still choose to slug for the 4k, lol. Wow, you're truly part of…

I feel game sense and mechanical skill are correlated when talking about overall skill. Making bad choices would reflect overall skill.

Engrish…The cause is horrible game design lol.

Well if a killer can slug the entire team either the killer is broken or matchmaking is, sometimes both.

As a solo q survivor with similar hours I can not relate. It does suck when you're tunneled but it happens so infrequently with me I would never make a post about it. What I would complain about is the horrible matchmaking and horrible system in place that completely invalidates individual skill. If you're getting tunneled…

BHVR must just wants some killers strong and others weak, or they just don't know what they're doing. I think we all know what the reason is.

I mean I've seen plenty killers that are mechanically not very good do extremely well with camping/tunneling. Why do they need to improve? To beat that rare comp swf that is actually trying to gen rush and get out as fast as possible? Most swfs, especially really good swfs mess around a lot. You know what the comp killers…

I'll be the killer here, "So I get punished for killing survivors?" BHVR are never going to get rid of tunneling, too many killers rely on it to feel like they're good at the game.

There has always been a big disconnect between the devs and playerbase. I'm convinced that no one that makes gameplay/design decisions actually plays this game at even a basic level.

"Maybe the survivor can still make it to a locker instead. This is called PVP." I don't know why this makes me laugh.

I mean just because the game was awful before does not make it not awful now. The game was so unbalanced on release there was nowhere to go but up, it's not an accomplishment.

It's fun to deny tombstone, there should be an achievement for denying it. Really it shouldn't be in the game at all.

Wow one match and now all survivors hate ghostface. I love the logic of DBD players.

"Don't be a jerk - and you will not be treated as a jerk." Completely not true but I respect your attitude.

There is no survivor rulebook and every 100 losses I might get one killer that lets the last survivor go. The same is probably true for pity kills, however every time I'm in a match when the killer gets absolutely destroyed and someone decides to give them a "pity" kill they don't want it.

Well if more killers felt the same it wouldn't be such a long queue. Thanks for not playing 2v8.

Yeah as soon as they fix MMR or remove it and actually add a skill based system.

I say extremely survivor sided what I mean is I escape more than not, that's extreme compared to how unbalanced and unfair 1v4 solo q is.

I don't understand the post, survivors are bad but the mode is balanced? As a solo q survivor I find this mode extremely survivor sided. Most my matches have half potatoes and half survivors working the objective which is usually enough to escape. Having said that I guess if you included regular 1v4 into the mix now the…

Lol, killers are now solo q in 2v8 lmao!

It would be nice if they always had 2v8 up, tbh it's kinda easy but it offsets 1v4 for solo q anyway. It feels like killers are solo q in 2v8 and that is so funny to me.

Oh I know the reason, I'm just saying it's hard to imagine anyone struggling with killer, or thinking the game isn't killer sided based on my personal experience as well as stats previously shared that show the game is killer sided at every MMR.

"Somehow, people still claim that the game is "killer-sided” which I find absolutely insane. Do we play the same game?" I guess we don't, I have (compared to solo survivor) a lot easier time winning matches playing killer. When I play as killer half of my wins feel free, and when I play as survivor it feels like 90 percent…

Stats are old, all you have to do is play the game to see the devs aren't right about anything honestly lol.

I would argue that the devs have made solo pointless, which in turn has made solo survivors not care at all.

Good for you, I quit for a while and came back. I really can't take much more, matches are so one sided I have a hard time even understanding how it's possible.

I mean I think most toxicity (if you take away just the normal toxicity that is in every online game) is this game is incredibly imbalanced. A lot of people that play exploit this or eventually become toxic because they don't.