YearOfTheHag

I think that some people in this thread are arguing past each other. I do not see how (except if the time is really really long) you can make an argument that this change is a buff. Hag just gets more and simpler counterplay to her kit with no compensation. Good Hag players (some of whom are here in the thread) have been…

I don't think the change will RUIN Hag, but it adds another layer of consistent counters to a killer that already has a lot of them. The change means her area denial game is hurt in favor of her chase game. I think her chases were already pretty good, so it feels like a straight up nerf. To the 12 people who still main…

This nerf screams "we did not talk to anyone who mains Hag at a high level" and I can't see it being the end of this conversation. I think that she has gotten a noticeable buff to her chasing power here, but it is overshadowed by a large nerf to her map control. It will incentivize her campy playstyle that she is…

Thank you so much for compiling these. Hag constantly gets bugs that can last for months before either quietly being fixed without patch notes or just remaining broken and ignored. You are doing the entity's work, here, and it is appreciated!

I agree with basically everything here. I just want to add that Grandma's Heart does not allow the hag to use terror radius perks in the same way that Dark Devotion does, as the phantasm terror radius is not "real". You can't, for example, pick someone up with starstruck and expose someone on the other side of the map.…

It is coming. Life, MMR, and the new massive rework have delayed it. I hope you like it when it is ready!

You will have to forgive me. There are a lot of complaints in the thread. Tbh it sounds like the map design is the problem. But that is for a different thread. If a hag has two people on hook and 5 traps under each of them then she has exactly 0 left on the rest of the map. If she has 5 between the two hooks, then she may…

So first, hag traps don't point in any direction until you trip them, they are circular. Second, if a hag is so committed to one hook that she blows half her web on it you get a 3 man escape for free. How is this much different from a Billy or bubba or trapper or really half the killer roster standing at a hook? As soon as…

Hag's traps will only affect your camera if you are looking away from them when they are triggered. Predicting where traps are and harassing them properly is basically Hag's core counterplay. Good Hags will use the camera swing to deny or weaken certain loops. They are trying to predict and punish your movement. By the…

Raccoon, you are an enigma and I hope you know I love you. Thank you. It has been a ludicrous exam but it is actually wrapping up today after 6 months of work and 3 straight weeks of writing. Crushed it. Happy holidays <3

Wow guys, ty for remembering my thread. Yeah, Michi and I are still working on it, but had to put it on hold because I had a crazy exam I had to write. Took months to get it done right but we are back to work. Keep an eye out! Also to answer the main question: yes it was before mmr. Since mmr I've lost a few times, it's…

A little while ago I wrote a guide on how to play vs hag and a little about how to play her. I'll link it here. I hope it helps! https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/277177/i-won-all-my-killer-games-for-a-year-here-is-everything-i-learned-long-post

I'm not sure many killers get more from this perk than the Hag. It interacts very well with her power.

I'm really happy that some people are getting what I wanted from the post. I hope you use some of the info and enjoy your matches as or against hag a little more!

This is what I have been trying to say. Thank you. There are a lot of people who I clearly bothered with the post. I am glad some people can look past its limitations and get what I hope is some pretty useful information. Go beat some hags!

I'm really glad you liked it. Try Franklin's, too! Watch survivors lose their minds chasing items that couldn't help them anyway. One of life's great joys.

STBFL gives you a lower cooldown after a successful hit. Ideally, this allows you to act much sooner, letting you TP again to another trap that goes off - negating the speed burst you gave the survivor and surprising them before they can figure out what happened - or start a chase with much less of a disadvantage. Being…

I am not sharing that info. I will say that I always play as a blue hag with the Twin Terror hair, though.

I appreciate your feedback. IMO, if a few people feel the same way as you do, that is enough to call the post a success.

No proof would satisfy everyone except for 700 vods. I did not collect that data, so I can't prove it. I hope the rest of the information in the post can help people. I am not interested in convincing random users that the streak happened. For those who want to read about Hag, I hope the info use useful. I am also here to…

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I am not going down a rabbit hole of what is and is not enough for everyone. I did not provide proof. Believe what you want to. I think the rest of the post is useful. If you disagree, thats fine. GL in your games. Also, yellow clown bottles have potential! I don't get the hate for them tbh.

I am in the DBD discord, but I cannot find you. Can you DM me on reddit or tell me how to find you in the channel? Thanks <3

So you say. I don't mind. I am happy with the post and many of the responses. Not for you? Also fine.

. I don't love the aura traps, I feel that I get enough infro just from the phantasm. Setting speed is addictive though haha. I always play with the same cosmetics. Blue coloured default hag and weapon. Twin terror hair.

Thanks for the positivity! I hope your games go well. If you remember this thread, come back and let me know it the info was helpful :)

I mentioned it because it is true, which I cannot prove. Hag is an S tier killer and I want people to know more about her. People may believe whatever. I think some people can look past whether they believe the claim and read the post. Everyone can take exactly what they would like, positive or not.

I've never made an account here before. You are entitled to your opinion about the streak and you are welcome to believe what you want to. All I wanted was to bring attention to the Hag and to help people with counterplay. I am not interested in streaming for hours or posting gods, as they will not satisfy everyone's need…

I am not, yet, but I will reach out to you on discord later. I am out for a while. Very excited!

I would be honored and super excited to do that. What's the best way of reaching you to swap info? You could dm me on the Reddit thread by the same name.

If I camped, I risked them slamming gens without me getting traps on the map. Not worth it. Much better to play optimally.

Totally agree with you. Thanks for coming by! Big streaks are an interaction of luck and skill, imo. I think Hag is up there with Nurse, Spirit, and blight, but I think a lot of the reason for it is that most survivors don't know proper counterplay. In making this guide, I hoped that I could bring some of what I learned to…

Michi! I can't believe you are here. I appreciate what you said about my post. It is unfortunate that I don't have the vods to back it up. Without your guides, I would not be nearly as good a Hag player as I am, nor would I enjoy the game as much. Thank you for that, please keep making great Hag content. Also, if you egg…

Here you go. He explains it better than I can. Excellent video, btw. I recommend the whole thing, if you are interested in the Hag.

All I want is for people to get hyped about the Hag, both playing as and against her. I think she is really interesting but a lot of players on both sides don't like her and so dont take the time to learn her. I really hope you try her out again and try out the techs I wrote up at the end. Enjoy your games <3

Ah. Found the next challenge.

Watch Michi and tell me MYC only works for hook bombs. I am not a streamer. I am not going to stream a day of Hag for anyone. This was an attempt to share some knowledge. I am sorry you didn't learn anything new. Your point has been noted.

You are free to believe exactly what you want to. You can discount everything I say based on whatever criteria you want to. Other players can do this, but it makes for very boring content and not very fun games. I have absolutely no doubt players like Michi who almost never lose (while using no add-ons and meme builds) can…

What is it that you are looking for? You don't believe me, which is fine. You don't think what I have to say is useful to you or your teammates, which is fine. I think that, for some people, this information will be useful. That's what I am here for.

I mean, it is clear to me that many people do not know this stuff. It is clear in that when I play hag, they do not do this stuff. I dont know other channels through which I can help out, so I posted here. You are free to believe it or not, implement it or not, I really don't mind. I am trying to help in the way I think is…

I really don't mind if you believe me about the streak. I am not looking for recognition or anything, I have hidden my account name. I think that a lot of wins come from survivors not knowing the counterplay to hag. I learned a lot about her in the last year and came to share what I know with the community. I also said in…

You need to be a big loser to win this much, trust me. Really though, you give up a lot of what makes the game fun to sweat super hard every game for a year.

Feel free to take this how you will, but I really don't want to. I don't think seeing a single game of Hag (or 10, for that matter) will convince people I did it, nor am I interested in proving anything. This was the way I chose to share my knowledge.

This would blow me away lol. I would love to hear what any of them would have to say / answer any of their questions.

Yup! Dowsey had 199 4Ks in a row on Twins. His win condition was more stringent than mine, as a single key escape ended his streak, but I allowed it, as I say in my post. I think a lot of streamers could win for a year, but it would make for very boring content. Same build on the same killer, sweating every game for a…

You are commenting a lot in the thread and on Reddit, so I figured I would answer you, finally. I am not trying to prove I won 700+ games. I did, but that is really not the main takeaway I want people to have. I don't mind at all if you think I am lying about the games. I just want people to read the post and learn how to…

Totally. Survivors need to learn the way to beat a good Hag. I think if they did, both they and the Hag would have more interesting games.

Thanks! I hope that the info I provide helps you enjoy the Hag matchup more in the future. She is really strong and she forces a specific counterplay strategy, but if you pull it off, she has very little chance of winning.

It certainly is a lot of wins. I think that some killers can do this, largely because survivors dont know the counterplay. This is my attempt to help out.

I appreciate it. I fully expected people not to believe me and to send me hate main DMs. People would rather demonize certain killers than learn new counterplay. I hope that my post helps out the people who want to learn.