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PC @Dwight_Confusion Same name on twitch. I try to keep up with things, and I can get a bit salty when dealing with someone who refuses to see reason and logic. (Aka stupid people)

not queen said it on the dev stream @Dwight_Confusion

@Karl_Childers This would be the equivalent of a survivor hiding in a locker in the corner of the map away from everything for the entire game, just so they MAY get a chance to escape. Would you do this? Unlikely. Would any survivor do this? Quite possible, but they won't be a good survivor, and they will get crap for…

You're cute. It's only bannable if there is NO way to get out, and are forced to d/c. And? If you're stupid enough to get caught down there like that, then you deserve your death. Get over it.

Shhhh. You can't use logic with Survivor mains. It gives them headaches.

People say that, but they're the minority. That's why BBQ is meta. So is UE. also @TreemanXD the "head-on, apply directly to the forehead!" isn't exactly a Samination joke, people were making that joke before Samination. Here's the source. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_SwD7RveNE

I don't think you're doing it right @NMCKE

But sadly, @TWiXT , with all the other massive pointless nerfs that killers are receiving, they're probably going to add a second stair case to the basement, and make the stairs wider, and remove two of the hooks down there.

And if the killer catches the survivor in the basement, with the hatch opened, what's his incentive for not just attacking and chasing the survivor and killing him? What's his hypothetical motive for body blocking this person?

Why is the last survivor left alive dumb enough to go into the basement?

@Dwight_Confusion I don't know if they made it 5 seconds per stack, or made it 5 stacks, but it maxes at 20 seconds now.

Yes. If you're in the basement, and the killer is there, then you've made a MAJOR mistake, and you should NOT get to escape for free in that situation. @VexTheHex So I 100% think the survivors should have 0 escape WHEN THE KILLER IS THERE. Edit : Re-reading your message makes me think you might not have actually read what…

IF the killer wants to punish a survivor, to get A SINGLE KILL, worth only 500 points, without getting any emblems, or any other points, what so ever, that's the killer being a moron. If two people are in the basement, and the Killer hits one of them, the other shouldn't be able to run out while the killer is in the hit…

@VexTheHex the collapse HAS fixed it. You can no longer be body blocked indefinitely. The game still ends. No matter what.

No you don't get it! Using all four of your perk slots specifically to do this IS "free" because..... Well... Oh heck, I don't know. I tried.

"If something was this broken on the survivor side." You mean like the old DS that took 3 years to get changed and was immediately replaced with MoM which is even better?

@adamn except the collapse WILL stop basement hostage games unless FOUR PEOPLE are stupid enough to get trapped in the basement. If the killer is doing nothing except standing at the basement then the gens are going to get completed, and the door is going to get opened, and the collapse is going to begin. So no matter how…

@Slayer This guy's funny. He thinks he knows what he's talking about and it's cute. I like poking him because his logic is extremely flawed. He's just whiny and wants a free escape. That's all it is.

@VexTheHex I'm against this because THE BASEMENT ISNT SUPPOSED TO BE A SAFE PLACE. Which part of that do you not understand? Stop being so whiny because someone body blocked you down there one time. It just makes you look stupid.

Yes, @VexTheHex it's fair, because now you don't have to d/c to leave the match. You don't have to lose all of your points to get to the next match. You just die. That's fair. Stop whining about something that isn't even close to a problem with the game.

@Dwight_Confusion They've increased it to 20 seconds now, instead of 16. Which still is barely useful.

@VexTheHex I've had SEVERAL games as killer where survivors ######### around and crouched around the map hiding after the exit gates were opened. I have never ONCE as a survivor seen someone get body blocked in the basement to be griefed just for lulz. The survivor thing didn't happen OFTEN, but it was still an issue. The…

@TheShape78 yes, killer gets a d/c bonus, but it's not NEARLY as many points as you get for chasing and hooking them.

@Milkymalk Also posting on the forums with your name would just get the video deleted since that's name shaming and is bannable on the forums. xD

The worst ones are the ones that d/c as soon as they go down @TheShape78 All they need to do to fix the D/C problem is make people wait X amount of time to join a new lobby after they d/c, increasing exponentially for each d/c. D/C once, wait 5 minutes. D/C a second time, wait 10 minutes. A third time, wait 15 minutes.…

I really like Make Your Choice but it's only good on killers that have the ability to get back to the hook really quickly. Make Your Choice on a Hag with that add on to teleport to any trap is GREAT.

RIP. You will be missed. </3

I really love Dance With Me. It's a nice perk to get away from killers, especially when paired with other perks like Quick and Quiet, or Lithe. Also @drekin Surveillance is one of the best tracking perks in the game and not really underrated. It USED to suck. It's only recently been buffed.

@DuckApproved the compensation you get is the Double Blood Point event next weekend.

You definiteley should @Kiskashi Spirit is super fun to play.

Maybe guys... Just MAYBE.... The entity chose these specific Survivors... because they know that they could punish the killers. They knew that the survivors they chose, would eventually get good enough to never get caught. So in the end... It's really the Killers being punished for all eternity, not the Survivors.

My build on Spirit is Ruin, BBQ, Surveillance, and Whispers. I personally don't see the use of using Nurses Calling on Spirit since you can't see their auras when you're phasing. Save The Best For Last is a pretty GREAT perk, especially when combined with Rancor, which is one of Spirits perks anyway. Since you don't have…

Thank you @ClogWench This is much more detailed than i was going to bother going for someone who seems to be too ignorant to understand that the perk actually has no valid counter.

If they get caught and go down and get trapped AFTER one of the doors is ALREADY OPEN then they deserve to die anyway.

So what you're saying is that Pig's traps are useless after the last generator?

You're right. I'll use Pig's Ambush attack on my spirit. Billy's Chainsaw sounds fun on Spirit actually. Why not? And my Spirit puking on people? Why not? GREAT ideas. Those will definitely work for spirit. As for your perk suggestions : three hex perks that are almost useless. Rancor which I actually already like as a…

Endgame? 100% Yes. Camping is a viable strategy. You need to camp that hooked survivor, or you lose your kill, and you MAY lose it anyway. During normal game time? That depends on the group you're playing against. If you know it's a 4 man SWF, they are USUALLY overly altruistic. You can camp and guarantee at least one…

A ton of people said Legion was OP @tt_ivi_99 They weren't RIGHT. But they said it.

What exactly IS the counter to MoM then? @Tru3Lemon Since it has 'alot of counter' you should be able to at least provide one valid counter. How can I, as a Spirit main, counter this perk?

@powerbats no it doesn't. You can still follow them while crouching. The major issue with Pigs nerf isnt the terror radius nerf. It's the fact that the traps are no longer immediately activated when placed after all the gens are done. Used to be, you could hook someone, and ACTUALLY LEAVE THE HOOK, to go look for other…

@Milo Pig cant see the progress on the RBTs. So no, she doesn't.

I completely agree with all of these statements. I personally have stopped playing Killer. I did ONE killer game on the PTB to test the Legion nerf. I will do killer dailies in the regular game but then just stop trying after the daily is done, or focus on only getting the daily. Besides that, I've not played a killer game…

@GodDamn_Angela I main spirit, and in MY opinion, Nurse's Calling is useless on Spirit, since you cannot see their auras while you're phasing. The good tracking perks on her are the gen tracking perks. Discordance and Surveillance. My Spirit build is Ruin, BBQ, Discordance, and Whispers - because I don't have surveillance…

Self Care is NOT a good perk. Just run adrenaline and work on a generator.

This would be a great rework. I'd be happy with this perk. I'd use it as survivor, and wouldn't be too bothered by it as killer. Great rework. The added haste effect is NOT a good idea, that's just stacking too much ######### on to try to make it OP in a different way.

@PigMainBigBrain they nerfed the distance too. It used to be 48 meters, now it's 32.

Except the problem isn't that there are people better than me. The problem is that the game is so unbalanced that I either get a 4k, or a 0k. The game is either unfun because it's too easy, or unfun because the survivors are ######### teabagging, body blocking, and clicking.

Unless the end game collapse was his idea, i think you may be mistaken about who you're trying to insult with this post. The comment he responded to was not directed at him. It was about the collapse in general. From an obvious survivor main. Because it's clear they enjoy ######### around for no reason after the gates are…

@Taelance MoM isnt a "free escape" it's a massive time waster on the killers part. One free hit after taking 3 hits. That's a 20 second MINIMUM to catch the survivor again and down them after that free hit, and that's only if the survivor sucks. Most survivors can run for at least a minute per health state. So an extra 2…

@SunderMun wrong. They lowered the range that it detected crows by 12 meters also. So they made it be unable to track direction with the countdown, AND they nerfed the distance. That's a major nerf to a not that great perk.