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I certainly don't have the time, energy, nor financial inclination to sit here all day complaining about every little exploit in DbD. Nah, but you can make generic post, listing all exploits on both sides asking to remove them. But for some reason almost all posts I see are asking for specific killer, so I guess people…
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Hence the care I put into word selection in the title, and my first reply to someone in this thread stating I wouldn't mind if they made the 180 a basekit feature that also works on controller. And I have stated several times, I don't mind that, or M&K support. I basically don't care as long it doesn't affect the killer…
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He is not really OP. His chase is quite limited, if you know what to do against him. Just don't give him any window, or pallet for free.
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Better is overselling it I am pretty sure console can't get even close to real flick on PH. If you do it right it makes it basically unpredictable, because you don't see any animation. But that is definetly enough, so Oni is not really only killer with high DPI flick. Total false equivalency. DbD wouldn't exist today if…
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Because Oni's 180 was never an intended feature. So several other techs in DBD, whole looping was not intended. Oni is the standout in this regard. That's not true. PH is same and his flick is better than Oni's. It's not like Oni is too strong killer, because of it.
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I highly doubt that, if you implement my suggested features to fix extreme situations where DC is required. If this make players without any self control leave DBD, I am fine with it. Would improve the game for everyone else. 10 minutes is not really that extreme anyway. Dota has 15 minutes, if I remember correctly and you…
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It doesn't make sense to design killers most of the community cannot ever use anywhere near their full potential, because of a mechanical issue and not a skill issue. Well, Houndmaster is next… Realeasing only killers that are managable for console would get boring quite fast, skill cap will be simply lower than could be.…
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Well, those players have to play with someone… Yesterday we had kinda fun session, where we had full SWF for 2v8. I think lowest was something around 1,5k hours and highest player had 18k hours. Well, of course no killers ware even close to what this would deserve, because it's not realistic with low queue times.
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My best build is Lithe, Finesse, Babysitter, WGLF. Two perks that let me have good chases, then two altruistic perks to deal with both tunneling and slugging.
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Sounds as problem of a platform, not Oni. Precision and fast camera movements are console issues in general. It's not Oni specific, so I don't see a reason to approach it differently.
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generally less sweaty in mindset so why should we worry about platform where people are unlikely to use something like this anyway? Oni is simply one of killers, where console players are always going to be worse at. Nothing new in DBD and there will definetly be more killers like this. For example I don't think…
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Well, many of those "exploits" simply make game more fun on both sides. I would fix only those really broken, which you can't do anything against and are easy to do. I don't think Oni's flick is one of them. And definetly with your "fix everything", do some on survivors side too… I think most exploits are good for the…
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Most of the playerbase is on the consoles, and the answer should never ever be "just get a PC" either. where did you get that information? It really doesn't seem one sided to me and you also can't tell who is console and who is from epic. Until they support M&K for the consoles these kinds of discussions will keep…
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I am fine with making 180 possible by whatever means. Your issue is it will make Oni unplayable for most console players, if you make sensitivity too high, because it would be suddenly way more difficult to control. It seems weird to handicap everyone, because someone got platform with limited controls by default. There…
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I dont want the hast back, because if it feels good on one side its rlly bad on the other. Seems fine for Clown, Trapper, Singularity, Dracula. Then you have several killers way faster using their power overall. Legion, Spirit, Wraith, Billy, Blight, Oni, Wesker, Chucky. So it's not just haste in general. It depends how…
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I'm okay with 10 minute DC penalty for the first DC of the day, then 1 hour and increase with each DC. Which works if we make some additional changes tho: when survivor gives up on hook, it gets replaced by a bot. when a survivor DC, everyone else can DC for free and keep their current BP create give up system, so you can…
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Mind to give me how you got to 38%? I wonder where I made mistake. and if I tried several online calculators, I usually got 47.96% chance
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Didn't they increase it with Billy rework? I am not console player, so just what I have heard. A strong (and fun) thing can be done with one input device but not the other. This directly controls how effective Oni can be. How do we reconcile this? Because of platform has limitations, we make it less fun for everyone else?…
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Hopefully never… Unless you mean let console flick too, I am fine with that.
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It's still simple, is 4% relevant or not? If it is so small as you claim, we can get safely rid of it. Also funny to compare .1% with 4% and act like it is same. Also % in games, don't always work same.
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So who will I trust more, math or your made up story? Unless you want to prove me wrong with probability calculation, there is 51,3% for this to happen at least once. That's not really low chance and self-unhooking is big deal, there is a reason why deliverance is one of best perks in DBD (at least for SWF). Get your…
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you: "removal of 4% is massive buff for killers" also you: "4% unhook for free is completely fine change" lol
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For me what's more surprising than the lack of Doctor hate is the lack of Myers hate. In the most extreme case you could not see him the entire game, then he runs up behind you and moris you. That's not really Myers in general hate, that's just Tombstone Piece (better of those two) hate. That addon is definetly hated.
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It's not really 4%, is it? it's 16 attempts for free, every game… I was never good at probability, but that should be 51,3% chance to happen at least once. Any math genius here to validate this? Thats a MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSIVE buff to killers but massive buff to survivors is fine. Funny…
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Place Drone Paths that cover multiple loops, or cover a high-traffic location. That sounds useless to me… If drone is not stationary, it's completely random if you catch survivor or not (time when you chase survivor there) Also survivors can simply decide to not chase there, if effect would be bad enough. So this concept…
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So every survivor can try to self unhook for no cost? Hell no…
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Which is still technically a nerf to killers. It can be nerf to kill rates, but gameplay is not changing at all. My changes wouldn't create anything worse than it's already possible. Revealing aura info is massive nerf to any aura reveal perk. Also, one person on the team running distortion already allows SWF to know what…
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Every buff to solo queue is technically a nerf to killer not really, there are things to do that would make gameplay for soloQ better without changing killer's POV much. This change would definetly affect killer's gameplay. You dedinetly would notice survivors prerunning whenever you see their aura… You can show survivor's…
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Why are people acting here like slugging is not good thing to do? There are definetly situations, where slugging is best option, it's not just "toxic" thing done by killers…
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I don't think help for soloQ should be simply a nerf to killers. This doesn't affect just soloQ, you are trying to use soloQ only as an excuse for this. There are several other options to do that wouldn't change killers, or SWF much. This is definetly not one of them.
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She doesn't lose distance like Knight because I specifically said "while moving". Ok, how would that work? Drone is going to travel basically only where you have walked before → unlike for there to be surivors, or skully will just hold W meanwhile (which can be often worse than just standing). Claw Traps here are meant to…
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I mean, unless you play killer with very fast chases, you need to worry about gens, there are simply gens worth defending. You shouldn't try to defend all gens, but I don't think not defending any is better. don't chase survivors into areas with no gens unless you down them very fast or need them for perk (Grim/pain res)…
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Then make it harder for yourself, when you want to. Not really difficult thing to do, but most people have simply too fragile ego to do it, because reality check would be too hard. don't use slowdown perks don't use any perks use suboptimal addons don't use any addons never tunnel always 8 hook first don't play top 3…
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Interesting version of basekit unbreakable I have seen was something like: you can't use it if you were hooked before or already used it using it cost a hook state for you can be used after 40 seconds +/- slugged (not changed by perks) This basically wouldn't remove mid/late game slugging and even if survivors use it,…
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There is simple issue. You want her to basically waste time using power, exactly as Knight, but the effect is way worse than Knight. Unlike when chased by a guard, drone can't do anything to me. Skully needs to catch up to me, if she wants to injure/down me. Then you have even more issues. If detection by drone will be…
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Anything like the Doctor wouldn't be accepted positively. To be honest I am surprised Doctor is not one of most hated killers, because he is actually a killer, where you are going to get downed no matter what (unless the killer won't missplay, or someone helped you). There is no way Skull merchant would get away with…
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I would prefer full rework, because I don't believe they are able to balance the drone, nor make it fun. yes the visuals too Yeah, they can't really do that, because of skins sold. I hope they won't even think about it, skins were reason why I have played her. but your comment overall is quite funny. Saying how everything…
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Also let's hope we won't have another Twins, where rework is so bad they had to remove most of it.
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I mean, isn't it exactly like Freddy? She first got kinda rework, where her drones and claw trap were changed quite a lot, then she got nuked…
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Well, you shouldn't do it if you expect/know survivor is using Dead hard. Or if you have perk where you can get better value like STBFL (grab obsession), or Coupe (don't waste stack if you don't need it).
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Who cares about Deathslinger? He is usually free escape in 2v8…
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Pinhead M2 is only slow, so kinda Clown with extra step. (unless iri addon is used) Hag is going to destroy soloQ groups more than Wraith can ever do. Funny to say how Spirit has so many "downsides", but is better than Wraith anyway. It's almost as Wraith has his own limitations.
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Yeah, lightburn was fine for me until flashbangs become a thing. That was so annoying to deal with…
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I mean, I would love to have 400% bonus back, but I play most of my games in 2v8 on survivors solo/duo and it is quite easy to escape. Even if it goes bad, it ends fast, so not really "signing myself up for punishment".
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Medic is way better, if you play duo. Scout is way better if you are solo. This work only if you have 3+ players on discord. Basically every class is broken. You just have to pick based on your team.
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Her nerf was basically Freddy 2.0. Nuked because of high kill rate into worst killer in DBD. Most likely her rework will be also same as Freddy and it is going to fail. Hard to say if it will be worse than Twins, Sadako, Trickster, Freddy reworks. That is quite difficult to do, but wouldn't suprise me at this point. I…
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I wouldn't say half are bad. Just Deathslinger and Trapper…
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Spirit, Pinhead, Sadako, Hag are technically M1 and way better than Wraith (Wraith is easier tho) Combination of words M1 and biggest tunneler/camper doesn't seem right. Biggest definetly can't mean best, because he is not even close to any of those. Also not even biggest for either of those.
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Well, they made it survivor sided to help queue times. It's expected for survivors to escape, so I would play killer only with friend, never solo. Then I just don't care, if someone manages to escape. Well, we play Blight, Spirit so doesn't happen that often… Also just give up on Deathsligner and Trapper, but everyone else…
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I would be fine with it, if timer is like 40 seconds (not affected by any perk) and it can be used only if survivor wasn't hooked yet.