PrinceAshitaka

Yes OP is right and @MandyTalk's statement seems to be contradicted by how bad this PTB is looking.

This is so bad, please revert the changes @McLean @Peanits

Wow...it's worse than I thought it was gonna be....

@Peanits https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1408771#Comment_1408771 as Peanits said there's still flexibility, so let's use this opportunity to explain why the cooldown is a bad mechanic for Billy.

Yeah disappointed by yet another cooldown power gauge that we have to stare at to use our power. Please even if you don't play the PTB express your feedback and make it clear to the developers that the community thinks this is a bad idea.

Exactly, people are downplaying this nerf so much. Of course we will see first-hand tomorrow but I am not optimistic. I'll use this thread as my feedback for the devs @Peanits @Almo

Tomorrow is the PTB, I hope people are outspoken enough for the Devs to consider reverting this Billy change.

2 days from now on.

Oh yeah of course lmao, that's the secret to Billy curving. You slap on the steering addons and it's EZ as OP puts it right haha ;) I just love how he calls it "curve addons" just demonstrating the ignorance of players who don't know how to play the killer but love to have strong opinions on how he should be played.

What are curve addons btw pal? Because it seems to me like you clearly don't know how to play Billy. In fact I'm fairly certain of that and if you were actually asked to prove it you would not be able to hit a decent curve to save your life.

Thank you for this thread.

A lot of us Billy really enjoyed using the engraving addons because it made a lot of curves that were not possible on addonless billy actually possible. Now if we have to also equip addons to prevent our chainsaws from overheating, I don't know but it just seems like an unnecessary headache. Plus I feel like they'll…

Best Case Scenario: They scrap it completely. Otherwise, they'd have to tone the overheating down so it's not so limiting and annoying and only happens for those truly unnecessarily long revving (e.g. in the case of facecamping).

:)

This. I am getting annoyed by all of these posters regurgitating the same "wait until ptb first" comment. We get it, yes we'll have first-hand testing of this new feature but we're in opposition to such a concept and we are expressing why it would be bad.

I don't know, guess I have some hope that someone like @Peanits or @MandyTalk will pass on our feedback to the team. I understand the developers have their own vision for the game but I hope they understand that us players also want what's best for the game too, we're not simply opposing this because we dislike change, we…

Ah well, I guess I'll stick to survivor now. RIP Billy :(

Regardless, all I can hope is that the devs reconsider their position on this. Please feel free to tweak Billy's addons as necessary but don't mess with his base kit and give him another plain old power gauge.

Something being "not bad" does not mean it should be added lol.

No it doesn't lol.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Do you believe we need another cooldown/power-guage mechanic? Do you think homogenizing killer powers is a good route for BHVR to go for? Sometimes you can tell an idea is bad without having to play it, yes it's important to do tests and give feedback but I am sure that I will not like it.

It really is a shame, I knew Billy would one day get messed with but did not think it would be this bad.

Since you guys are copy and pasting this response, I will also paste mine: "Because I believe he did not need any change besides his addons, why force this change on us in the first place when the vast majority of Billy players consider it unnecessary and limiting? We get the idea from the article and video, and we don't…

This just concerns me more that they messed with addons like his engravings, only time will tell.

I agree that Billy can stomp low-ranks and your average pub team, but compare him to a killer like Spirit. I just don't feel these changes are justified in the slightest, and not being able to pip because they have a one-shot mechanic should not mean a nerf it should mean a change to the pip system to accommodate for that…

We don't know that though, and frankly insta-saw is something that should have been addressed in the article if they're discussing important changes to allow for more "skillful gameplay". And nothing has changed since. We're speaking out now, as early as we can, to make it as clear as possible to the developers how…

I don't think you understand the purpose of this thread, but thanks for your input.

You can tell this dude does not play Billy to make such a stupid and ignorant comment.

I am just so disappointed at how lazy these changes are, another cooldown mechanic as if we don't already have enough gauges in the game. I am sorry but you guys are headed down a bad path of homogeneity and frankly unfun. I hope this reaches you developers and that you don't take offence to my feedback I only want the…

I see we already have the comment saying "wait for PTB to see", but I will reiterate that I do not think Billy's power should be touched, and what they're doing right now will alienate a large amount of Billy mains. I want to make my point clear that even if the new overheat mechanic is "not so bad", that does not mean it…

Oh man, I understand you guys are busy and can't fix everything...but I hoped he would've been a higher priority. I'm sure it sucks that huntresses don't get their bonus bloodpoints, but Billy's animations are so jarring right now. Another week of not playing him :/

I'm liking what you're saying, I just hope those ideas actually get implemented.

Let's do the maths on the exit gate speed - exit gate takes 20 seconds to open, with the current Spine Chill/Resillience combo that would bring it down to 17 seconds. With Spine Chill at 15% it would bring it down to 15 seconds - which is yes strong but still not busted, and of course this is not realistic since the killer…

If you look above, the current extra vault speed is only 0.13 seconds faster. Plus that's good, I want it to be more popular in rotation than the currently more used meta perks that provide way more value.

I'm well aware that the information-value is the main reason people run Spine Chill. But because of the recent rise in popularity of the Vault-Speed Build AND simply to make it more attractive to players to use instead of the old classic meta perks that we all know. I think giving it that buff would do good in increasing…

Okay I reread the post from here https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1205314#Comment_1205314 and you're right you don't run Spine Chill. I don't know why I misremembered that, sorry for the wrong tag haha. But hey you should give it a try anyways, it's a pretty cool perk.

Curious to what @Peanits thinks, since I caught him running the vault speed build on stream. Same with @Almo who I see runs spine chill. :D

Any Billy news? Any billys in chat that wanna play today but can't?

Yeah I believe it's mainly an animation error.

@Peanits Can you tell us anything? McLean said the Billy changes are unintended which is cool, but when will they be fixed? Next week? Next month? Next chapter?

Yeah I'm hoping for a response from the devs here but they've been radio silent on Billy.

Guess you missed the part where they addressed all mac maps except Shelter Woods.

Guess we'll have to wait and see after this PTB.

I definitely understand that, but like Shelter Woods doesn't need that significant of a change? And it's part of the realms they're addressing. Hawkins is a completely different realm of its own, whereas Shelter Woods is one of the Macmillan Maps, and it was also severely in need of a change so it's just strange that…

The Gunslinger ?

It's pretty sad, I was gonna try being a killer main for a bit but now I'm back to survivor. It's much more consistent.

I know but they haven't made any updates at all in that thread.