Slugging For The 4K - An Exaggerated Problem?

Why would a killer bring a perk the find the last survivors when all they need to do is out wait them? If survivors waits too long they both get sacrificed due to server ending. I used to bring whispers but found that after a while I thought if I have time to wait like the survivors do then I can get 4k without taking up a perk slot... Just wait out the hiding.

"I've been playing for slightly longer. I see it maybe once a day. Last two both want hatch (or to be nasty) so will go from locker to locker hoping I find the other one first. "

Direct quote from you

@alpha5 hey, like this one too? XD

Well if they're staying in one place then you should be able to find them pretty easy by searching the map~ They are playing the "hiding" part of "hide and seek". Know that game? You say the survivors job is completing gens and escaping. Your half right, it ONLY escaping (unless they got some other definition for winning), does not matter how. Because the killer slugged that 3rd, if there's more than 1 gen or if the killer is guarding said slug, then the best way to complete their job is to wait for the slug to die.

if that's ok then slugging without even touching surv is good too. because 4 minutes is not 20 minutes ;) and it's always 4 minutes, it's always less than hiding.

Gonna be honest here, we have absolutely no idea how you reached for that logic. Soooo hows slugging everyone equal to slugging for the 4k? If nothing else we'd think it would be longer than slugging for the 4k. Waiting 1 survivor to bleed vs 3 to bleed. Not even touching the heavy details here. Care to explain or you just shouting into the fog random things?

who we?? who? who's "we"?? and where did you get that "whaterever reason"??? did you never read any comment? you have dozens of comments explaining why people slug for 4k, TO GET 4K, genius.

Rulebreaker is a shared account by 3 of us. We say "whatever reason because they were literally listed and we didn't feel like posting each and every detail ohh venerable wisebutt.

here's scenario

So let's see if we understand this correct. It's still a 2v1, the killer had the 3rd at their mercy but chose not to "for whatever reason" hook, got the 4th, lost the 3rd due to incompetence or stupidity depending on what you want to call it (as the killer had that one at their mercy previously) and was bled out, which then causes survivors to complain about the 4k and people who then try to shift all the blame onto them due to not playing how the killer wanted...we'll let you think on how many mistakes are here and if you want us to actually explain everything but personally I'd want a drink first (probably the other 2 as well).

That's a lot of assumptions/unspecified premises for this little text.

First up: Survivors are not a team. Proof: MMR isn't distributed on a teambasis, no seeing perks beforehand, no communication, developer intent (check out Steam storepage) - the thing you criticize is stated as a possible strategy. Survivors can either cooperate with the others or be selfish.

Hiding is not an inherently bad move even what the team is concerned with. Example: 2 gens done. 2 hooks total, on the same guy. If he does anything other than hide (until he absolutely has to help) but instead gets himself killed by showing his face, I am going to ask him post-game why he threw the game. I don't see any reason why that would suddenly go obsolete in endgame. You want to kill, they want to survive. The role isn't called mechanic, medic or roadrunner.

There can be multiple reasons why you didn't see a particular survivor. From you hard-tunneling over their mates playing too aggressively/carelessly to them not taking chase when necessary. Even the last part doesn't mean too much in a vaccum as you probably could and should ignore that chase anyway. It's not that obvious at all unless they run a build like urban evasion + pre-nerf distortion. I just don't trust your judgement on the happenings at any given moment. I don't deny your scenario never happens though, and there are a lot of bad/immersed gamers, but it is weird to me how a (perceived) playstyle of a specific survivor is justification for being compelled to prolong the game by roughly 50%. You wanna kill them all for fulfillment? Just say so. Stop pushing an alibi-justification. If anything you should be shitting on the matchmaking for matching you with these useless hiders, right?

And since you ask specifically about your question as if you had never been in this situation as a survivor, I ignored it because it is not a good one. Clearly, it is playing the game. The issue is the killer is the only one left "playing". The survivor is reduced to one choice a minute while the slug questions themselves why they even play this game. Essentially, all the choices lie with the killer and there are no more stakes anymore. No choices, no stakes - not much of a game, is it?

The purpose of these 4K-slug threads isn't to convince anyone to change their playstyle but for Bhvr to change the game so 4min of nothing isn't possible to begin with. I don't fault you for 4k-slugging but it shouldn't be part of the game to this extent and I will judge you for it. (Just for the record: If you see the 4th as you down the 3rd you can have a grace period, I don't care, don't want to discuss this here.)

Now you tell me why a single survivor is worth >4min and why the slug deserves to be kept in that game.

Rulebreaker don't know yet. We'll see.

Exactly what I been saying lol I get it that survivors want to escape if possible and as hatch is part of the game and they prepare for it. But killers want 4k if it's possible so hatch being the way it is, they prepare for it. Killers don't want to wait out the game looking for hidden survivors, like survivors don't to be slugged while killer looks for 4th.

The main issue recently seems to be directed at slugging for the 4k not hiding until server ends which are both related to the hatch. I can openly say as killer I will be as stubborn as the survivors and wait it out to get the 4k because at that point waiting for the hatch that will never appear is pointless. But doing that "checkmate" move really does get people worked up.

What am I assuming? I explained my claim.

With this sort of attitude is there really any wonder why people slug and don't care if it's wasting survivors time?

This is just a chicken and egg scenario on what came first. You can say that you are slugging because otherwise they hide out, and the survivors can say they hide out because the killer is going to slug.

Do you expect empathy from survivors for the plight of the killer main when they advocate for anti-camp, tunnel or slug measures?

You are gaming the system, not actually playing PvP. You understand that, right?

slugging for 4k is literally a problem forced by another problem, decision to punish it literally means full ignorance for the absolute RNG game aspect called hatch. Hatch was and will always will be the #1 and biggest reason why killers slug for 4k

Not at all, I play the game as normal. I patrol gens as the game suggests the killer do. If survivors are hiding avoiding gens that's on them but I'm still playing the game.