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Half of this forum (being generous here) simply ignore whatever the topic is and just plop something like "No matter. Survivor sided. Reee" Bhvr needs a forum 'irrelevant post' filter. Anyway, I tried my first killer game yesterday for 2v8. Waited in queue 17 mins, as expected. Killers washed and game was over in like 6…

Its amazing no one understands this mode isn't a serious 'must win' thing. Its for fun. Its a fun mode to have fun in. When 1 gen remains, and its clearly a wash, maaaaaaaybe players just… wanna play the game and winning isn't important? 2v8 is chaos anyway, and thats kind of the point. I've pity for these types. Must feel…

Removing map offerings would be amazing for the game. Not one side or the other, but for the game as a whole. I support this.

The 'reason' will change depending on what works best for the killer main you would be talking to. There is no reason. A player chooses to slug, and they can't just say that, they need to have some scapegoat like BHVR or Survivors did this or that.

Anyone complaining about the 'killer' queue times need to stop: you're showing your ignorance. In a mode that houses 10 players, you think the team with 2 will be fast? Even if its thought about for a moment, its a matter of math that I wholly believe can make sense to people here. Killer is the more sought after spot with…

Hope you understand now how BHVR works.

Then this is the day things started to take their turn for most of the problems plaguing the game.

This. I've been saying the game is a party game and it always gets the "Actually, all pvp games etc etc blah blah.' Its a party game. Even today. But hardliners will preach its not anymore, regardless of reality. Ths game cannot be balanced in a meaningful way due t the nature of the game and the skill level of the dev…

It's like Christmas!

I agree with this, but the difference is Billy is the only one from these other 'similar level of cooldown' that's an insta down killer. This makes it much more powerful. Not taking a side here yet, as I'd like to see how perspectives play out. But currently, Billy is pretty damn stacked when comparing others to his kit.

Thank you. :) Dislike, I agree with your view. But you went right to specific actions, not a 'hate' or continued 'disgust' with how she can be remembered. I was wondering if you had an issue with hookicides/DC's being more frequent on her specifically, or if it was the whole view of viewing her so negatively. I believe you…

Hello, resident Freddy Main®! I'd like to converse with you a bit about your comment! Specifically, "People only DCed because of their hatred for a character that no longer existed." Do you think it is wrong of anyone scorned by the release of SM to continue to dislike/hate even if she is nerfed/buffed/whatever state she…

He's amazing with some time! If you have a friend who can help a bit in some customs, having them run you around loops so you can get better at knowing when to shred. His portals are amazing but will take time to feel it out. Generally, keeping them tucked behind something like a rock or wall near a gen helps keep them…

Im not disagreeing with you at all, but I want to point out that bots are 'usually' better team mates. Sadly lol

Sarcasm and humor, promise. :) And I've never equipped BT or DS. Can't stand them tbh. Well, I'd say the same thing survivors are told about Adrenaline, Distortion, etc. They are still very viable and powerful, just not perfect. You can use them and still win efficiently.

Ah, I see. Rather enjoyed this explanation. Thank you. Now piece by piece! My post was about the survivor experience just as much as it was the killer experience, with my whole argument being that I didn't feel like Finisher Mori is the great evil here everyone thinks it is. I haven't seen any uptick in slugging for 4ks…

Yeah. Actually sounds great.

Does this strike the killer groups as problematic? Is there any desire to get hooks appealing again? Are killers fine with 'slug > hooks?' I would assume not. The game is not fully functioning as designed. Side options are turning out more appealing than the primary goal BHVR clearly wants which is hooks. I sincerely hope…

That actually made a ton of sense. I think I need to word things a bit more to not reflect what you gleamed. Interesting… Thank you :)

Both of those kind of suck… Basekit Dead Hard and basekit Sole Survivor please! lol

So now if ones experience doesn't match 'the data', it just doesn't exist? Need a little more here. I dont want to assume things, so please set this straight for me. I fel nothing you said disproves anything I said, so cool. But when did I say anything requiring you to respond with "This works both ways you know? Your…

Yes, good solution. Do anything but play the game. Great idea. Literally had this happen 3 times in a 8 game session. Its a thing right now and Im tired of people pretending its not. Your experience is not mine, thats fine. Changes nothing about the reality to others who aren't 'you'. Slugging is probably an epidemic at…

(I’m 70% killer btw, so not biased) Bias comes regardless. If you have to put up a sign like this, there's probably a reason. But for the record, I liked your post and mostly agree lol. Distortion was unhealthy for both sides as it has caused people to tunnel even more. Lets add some context. Distortion user isn't seen by…

 Finisher mori doesn't really provide anything new to the killer experience, and I haven't at all felt like more killers are playing nasty because they want to see the animation. Im sure everyone would agree with you. Its a correct statement, but has nothing to do with the topic. Its the Survivor experience that's new with…

lololol Don't settle! You're worth more! She'll treat you like a coffee pot!

Well, curious how this plays out. I always wondered why draws were never talked about.

It probably is lol I'm responding to the part about this game being anywhere in reality with it becoming 'balanced.' It won't. But your line felt unique, in a positive way, so i wanted to highlight it. Apologies if it seemed offensive, its been a really long night. <3

Call it what you want. The game is a party game that wants to be a hard pvp game, but will never be, it was made this way. justification for devs to not fully balance the game around the idea survivors can communicate and optimize teamwork. Again, this game can't and will not be balanced. Like… does everyone not get that?…

Its because you can't balance a party game the way people want dbd to be. Its literally impossible. And its still a party game. Just now its a really bad one.

People just toss strawman and whataboutism like its candy if they dont understand the conversation. Just let them complain momentarily and move on. When they reply to this, I'll give an example.

Drsoontm is correct. This is what balance looks like in a game that fundamentally cant be balanced.

BHVR has to make all these things in the game due to killers. Anti face camp, three gen solution, etc. Its all due to killers playing the way they are. Since nothing really is done about problematic things, play killer more. Survivor has lost a lot of its charm and polish since its been buried in the Dredges void hole.

From personal experience, the void is a deathtrap for survivors and if the crystal is bugged with scratch marks not showing, I dont even want to use it. On the flipside, I've had killer after killer simply tunnel and play likes its a live game. Too many 4 slug bleed outs at 5 gens too. So I've just stopped playing for a…

Keep it going, gamers. The more fuss this crap works up the more likely BHVR will change things. Like a machine.

Trapper! ~If you can afford the time, get a friend to join in a custom map. Every single one of them. You'll both be combing over the map for niche trap spots, and if fruitful, you'll not have to worry about having a bad map (Of map offerings!) ever again. ~The more Survivor knowledge you have, the better Trapper becomes.…

Shhh, if you're tired, just take a nap. You're literally not being forced to read anything. We all know whats on these forums. Its kinda why we're here.

I mean, this is pretty true lol.

Whip crack with his wooshy tail!

fair and healthy limits for both sides without trashing soloq would be nice. This would be nice, but its just not possible in a game like this, or with a company like BHVR. BHVR needs to pick what they want this game to be. Because as it stands, its a party game wrapped in a comp pvp bow. They need to pick a direction and…

This would be awesome actually, if the killer would have a 50% penalty to BPS, maybe more. A growing penalty like DC'ing could work also. But, otherwise… it would just force a concede for faster games. I think it would exasperate slugging and scummy playstyles. Could be wrong though! There's workarounds for a lot of ideas.…

I still can't throw traps on Trapper. Come on, BHVR… On a more serious note, if this type of thread works, I'm buying you a bloodpoint pizza. :)

Hahahahahahahah!!!! Soda all over my keyboard lol

Ah, makes sense. I wonder what kinda of findings we'd have in going through the history of DBD and finding cause and effects. Like.. what really caused tunneling to uptick? The comp scene? Thats my bet. What really started an uptick in bleeding out? SO many questions I'd love answered. The slugging thing has been around…

This is a forum and I posted to a thread since I saw another question. See, its right here: Im asking why do they think that isn't the case already. And you asked a question to OP that was kind of lazy and boring. Rhetorical or not, matters little. I decided to give you an answer I felt is correct. You dont 'have' to…

Because theres no money to be made by losing those hackers. It would be great for us players. But it serves no purpose than some positive PR for BHVR. Honestly, I figured they'd want as much positive PR they can get given the state of the game.

True. Now though? Its becoming more common, just like tunneling, etc. When will people understand that when unfun things happen in small degrees, its usually alright. When those things get an uptick for reasons that can plainly be identified, it will be complained about. This is human. This has been the way for a long time…

I see. Noted.

Shared inventory would be a badass thing to add as a P100 only thing. P100 survivors share their offerings, etc with other p100 survivors they have. Same for killers. I kind of like this lol

Eh, I disagree. Attacking BP or win conditions might be the only thing that works with the lesser part of the playerbase*. Its worth a shot at least as all other attempts to curb playstyles that mean to simply make you be unable to play have failed. Nah, B+ at worst. A most likely :) *: Slugging simply for bleedouts,…

Thank you. I understand where you are on your hill. Just a bit steep for me to climb. Agree to disagree and thats okay :)