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That's the thing with both sides some players will camp and tunnel from the start proxy camp is ok IF you know someone is there going for the save, same with survivors the perks and items they bring in can gen rush big time, keep saving someone you pick up etc but some survivors are not like that they would rather have fun…

Here is a better idea survivors need to stop unhooking before the killer leaves , 90% of the time a killer tunnels is because a survivor unhooks right in front of them or before they take 10 steps. So why wouldn't the killer go after the injured one and not the health one, a perfect example is Myers hooked someone popped…

I'll say it if one person did something worth me saying it or even if it was the whole team, most times ill try to single out the person like you said sometimes ill just say ggwp because i might be busy and need to leave chat/game asap. Sometimes saying it even if its just to one person can turn the feeling of getting…

Not really even if a team lost you can still say well played, take soccer the final score is 3-1 and you have won but those 3 goals was out of i.e 20 shoots which means the goal keeper stopped like 80% of your teams trys at a goal. So you can still say well played because the goal keeper did play well in that match even…

Even if you or your team got destroyed you might of done something that match that the other person gave a WP for it could just be 1 chase you did well on and the killer lost you but wanted to say WP, well played does not always have to mean the match was close if a killer gets 0 kills but they played well in other parts…

That's the thing the devs shouldn't have to test it internally then on a PTB to know that a major part of the player base does not want the moris changed to what they plan people have been vocal about it since they told us what they were planning to do with them and that was coming from both sides not just one, why spend…

It's not just teabagging it's also spamming the flash light or having a survivor follow you around all match with one yer it's one less person on a gen but it can get very old and annoying quickly even more when your trying to be fair and not tunnel the same person. And there has been times in the game where killers had to…

Because survivors ######### when the game gets to hard for them and seeing as there is more survivors then killers of cause they are going to make survivors happy to keep the cash coming in. lol those 2 are no where even close to what survivors are getting and killers only got part of those 2 not the full effect of the…

Which both are legit strategies to use in the game to get a win, survivors have perks to counter camping and slugging they just don't want to use them and rather have BHVR make them basekit for survivors. You don't see killers getting basekit perks like corrupt intervention to help out killers more so the slower ones or…

Then why are survivors getting basekit BT and UB instead of growing thicker skin.

They changed a lot of things as time went along, once Jason got rage only a few things could stun him otherwise hitting him did noting and he could just grab you while you try, they reduced the amount of pocket knives so there was only like 4 per match. They did a few changes which made him stronger because they knew…

It's not that simple with this change they are now forcing killers to play in a way which could be a lose/lose no matter what, some killers depend a fair bit on slugging. One thing no one is really bringing up is with BT in basekit and now UB survivors are pretty much running 6 perks now, how is that meant to be fair when…

The survivor failed in the chase causing them to be downed, survivors ready to try for the save and you down them failed at getting the save there is many ways a killer or survivor can fail in the match not just the basic kill or escape. Killers slug for pressure and the fact that sometimes you can steamroll if the…

We know they won't give killers anything the way they are going they will make DS basekit for survivors, with the BT basekit and now UB each survivor is pretty much using 6 perks now not 4, i'm surprised with how many people can't see making UB base kit is a bad idea if there were more conditions to using it as basekit…

But it's not a last resort your pretty much saying if 3 survivors are in the same spot and you have Myers at tier 3 that slugging those 3 before you hook someone is a last resort and somehow the killer failed, not that the survivors made any mistakes that allowed the Myers to do that, why should a killer be punished for…

Sometimes you need to slug be it to put pressure on survivors, type of killer your playing i.e hag, other survivors are close ready for save. Slugging at 5 gens yer that's just wrong but at times you need to slug and now having UB as basekit it will kill a lot times you need to slugh.

Not really as some killers are best played by setting up a 3 gen from the start i.e hag so during that match you need to plan and decide where the 3 gen will be, what gens your willing to give up and making sure that you keep the 3 gen till late in the game, which is why some killers will hook someone in the middle of a 3…

So how do you counter a flashlight blind when pulling someone from a locker something like that shouldn't be able to happen but it does. Until they lock survivors at say 20sec left you have no idea what they could bring in as they can swap from no flashlights to 4 in the last few seconds and you don't have time to swap 1…

If the killer is on the other side of the map chasing someone then survivors should have enough time to get the unhook, get somewhere safe and heal up and a lot of people do it under the hook which the killer knows that at least 2 people might be there. Even when i play killer people thought i tunneled them out with out…

What happens when the survivors 3 gen themselves its pretty much the middle finger to the killer and a escape they didn't earn, some killers need to plan for a 3 gen, survivors 3 gen themselves why should they be rewarded for messing up and putting themselves in that hard spot. Games like this will never be fully balanced…

And your saying none of the killer perks got nerfed and that only survivor perks got nerfed survivors got BT put into basekit but that must of been a nerf, Face camping has nothing to do with old hatch and keys and how broken it was same as moris which is why they changed them both. Not every player will face camp and not…

Now lets flip the coin and and say the key and hatch comes back then the moris will have to come back and after hooking survivors once, some killers have next to no map pressure or anti loop skills so moris will now be punishment for gen rushing when vs a killer with no map pressure or anti loop. Both changes to moris and…

All those problems could be looked at once survivors learn how to do a safe rescue and not just lead the killer back to the hook so they can get the save then have the other survivor complain they got tunneled, When it was your teammate that did the unsafe hook not the killer so you might say killers are bad for tunneling…

That's one thing i liked about F13th each counsellor had skills they were good at plus ones they were bad at, some were better at fixing things and could get it done faster but had no stamina to out run Jason, then someone that is good at fighting Jason but couldn't fix stuff to save his life and this was before perks even…

No idea its worse when they still end up being afk during the match soon as you get crows im hooking you, if you get a 2nd lot off crows im hooking you again that is more then enough time to get back and play the game. I had one meg that hid somewhere then went aft like why ready for a match if your just going to go afk.

The only problem is her add-ons they need to be looked at and treated the same as huntress i.e iri that 1 shots but you can't use some addons with it, that's all she needs her base kit is fine and if they do a add on pass like that then she will be in a good spot i.e only using 1 range addon not 2 as it won't allow it.

Then why didn't they kill switch breakdown i'm pretty sure they were able to kill switch when it happened but they didn't leaving kills no option but to slugg.

"As for survivors doing unsafe unhooks, those are bad players and they are always going to be present in the game. They also don't represent the bulk of the complaints against tunneling." That's the problem us the players and devs have no way to tell when someone post on the forum about getting tunneled if it was a unsafe…

Same but with ghost face or pig they just run i do get the odd ones now and then that will teach me how to do a gen, good thing is if they miss a skill check you can give them a little slap to tell them off lol.

Survivors don't adept when undying first came out did survivors adept to the posb of having to do all 5 totems nope they just bitched till it got nerfed, survivors got base kit BT and instead of adapting they still go for unsafe hooks i.e right after killer hooks a survivor, the killer take 10 steps and bam a unhook or the…

What would rather a killer that hard camps and tunnels one person out at 5 gens left or one that wants to have a bit of fun by trying to get someone to boop the snoot, so which is is are you happy with killers hard camping and tunneling someone out at 5 gens or a killer that is more relaxed to play against more fun because…

Next time you have the pig as the killer crouch down and walk towards the pig, if the killer is going to let you do it they will do the same thing and once your right in front of the pig you point at the pigs nose and that's how you boop the snoot.

Yer i agree with you on that they need to look at the mmr system and matching making the lobbys are just to random at the moment and solo q does need some love. Who knows if they will or won't we know what they are like, to me i would rather them look at killers that struggle at the start and if they can buff them in a way…

LMFAO are you kidding with this post, they gave you a valid response as to why they faced camped you it was you and one other person at that point and your lacking some info how many gens were done, did the EGC start and would you rather them slug you until they found the other person posb leaving you to bleed out taking 4…

And killers could argue that some perks or base-kit BT shouldn't work in EGC because it puts the killer in a lose/lose situation soon as the EGC timer starts it should be all or nothing unless your killer build was for endgame but that meant playing the match with 1-2 perks, it should pretty much get out once gates are…

That's part off the deal when you join a lobby you never know who will be on your team, it's like that with most games even ones that aren't pvp based or 1 vs 4, take FF14 when you queue for pvp or just even a trail depending on your class your taking the risk of getting a bad tank, healer or even dd. So no matter how much…

That's the thing a lot of people were complaining about camping and tunneling and base-kit BT needed a buff but out off all those people that complained how many of them were doing unsafe unhooks, when i play killer it's a joke how many survivors will do a unsafe hook be it just as i hook them they were there waiting to…

When they did it they said the first 10 min counselor's were stronger but the last 10 min Jason becomes the power role so the 20 min match time was spilt in half, but if the counselor's kept hitting Jason then he gets rage faster. yer with no servers now and someone having to host its best to play with friends and do a…

Because they wanted everyone to play Jason at some point, the group of friends i played with the few that picked counselor might of got Jason 1-2 times a week and that was playing everyday for 6 hours.

A lot of those things did get fixed before they had to stop working on the game, everyone got servers be it pc or console so no more hosting, they put a DC system in and you could leave once you got your results be if escaping or getting killed and they put it in that you could pick if you want to be Jason more, Counselor…

They were till they buffed Jason once he gets rage only 4 things will stun him a gun, pocket knife, knocking his mask off or when you go to kill him otherwise counselors can no longer stun him and they reduced the amount of items they can find. They did put a system in place for people that DC all the time i can't think…

You say playing killer is easy then you tell us all that you use the 2 best killers in the game, which pretty much makes your whole topic pointless if playing killer is so easy do it with bad killers and non meta perks?

Yer a lot of killers don't want to play a killer for memes with survivors or just to try and get a boop, those types of matches are prob the most fun ones i have had as killer, screwing around as ghostface with survivors, trying to get boops, slug races at end ######### i even started a conga line with the survivors…

True couple months back someone got to boop the snoot for the first time playing this game, they had there friend talking to them explaining what to do and why to do it.

That sucks if i get a boop or close to it i let that person escape and if's a good boop the whole team.

Sometimes you don't have the choice to slow vault and the best option is to fast vault to keep your speed, if someone is about to die on hook and the best way to get to them is fast vaulting things are you telling me your going to slow vault and lose a team member then save them and keep them in the game a bit longer.

The OP is kinda right when the game first came out they didn't think or consider looping to be part of the game it was more hide/stealth to get around, soon as people found out you could loop killers the game changed from what they intended it to be to a game in which you can loop killers.

LMAO if the gates are open and EGC has started if a killer hooks a survivor with less then half the EGC he has no reason to leave if he does he is just giving the survivors a free escape at that point, camping is not for bad killers as sometimes you have to camp or you are forced to, yes some people do it right from the…

Not really if they buff solo q even if its something next to the name to let the others know what there doing then you can buff other killers. Not every thing can be solved by nerfing it sometimes you need to buff things but in the right order such as solo q buff then buffing weaker killers, out of the 28 killers only 2-3…

If you think this game is hard you will find F13th even harder there is no hooks, only one person can come back as tommy and you could be dead in a min. If Jason catches you and grabs you and you don't have a pocket knife or someone around to hit him then your pretty much dead and his abilities are a lot stronger then the…