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I did this with trapper without camping at all. Just set some traps there and there and every time I hooked someone, another survivor put a foo on a trap. I litterally DID NOTHING of the game. xD

Because they're stupid ?

You ask for a nerf, so survivors use all he keys they have before that happens.

Used Kindred a lot today and I still died on he hook while the killer was on the opposite side of the map. Another survivor was just the next room on Saw map. Even if this perk should be obvious to take, you can't force people to play in team.

Learned it the hard way today. People let you die for your first hook to take the hatch, even if you specially get hook for helping them. So... Go solo, you'll lose all faith in mankind (inside video game :p)

If players need to tunnel with the pig, it's not the killer's fault. Specially with his perks. Only weak killers or people seeking for challenge (books) or achievement will tunnel with pig. Maybe they don't play well/often with Amanda.

Don't forget Devor hope, guys. This perk is rarely used, so when a killer take it, it's almost every time to late. The other survivors down like dominos one after other. Like the people said before me, all depend of the situation, your perks, Killer's perks etc...

If they insult you because you don't genrush like an robot, ditch them and don't take their opinion in account at all.

I first thought that was a bait, but a huge portion of Claudette are just here to enjoy he map and do nothing else.

Prevent camping? In wich universe? More seriously, you just need to hide in a locker when you play survivor. And so many of them play with locker anytime and anywhere except when necessary.

I play only on PS4. A few month ago, you could still talk with the killer. Now, every one block their messages, survivors and killers. I can be salty sometimes, but I never insult someone. Dialogue is the best option. But now you can't even do that. You can have any exchange with other players... Maybe it's not a bad thing…

The worst kind of survivor is when someone lopp in the shack when someone is hook in the basement. And the survivor making the killer run is full life. I mean... what's his deal? You can't save the guy downstair since the killer will see you and, logically, follow you. And it's not always around the shack. I don't…

I'm main survivor and... No, it's not taking the game hostage in my opinion. =)

It's a question about experience, not ranks. Ranks have no meanings in this game. You'll find much better killers in low ranks than in high ranks. Some players derank in purpose even if they are good. The same thing can be said about survivors. Some red ranks survivors will be useless as hell compared to some green... or…

First time you experienced getting tunneled? You should get used to it as fast as you can because a lot of killers play like this. They ditch any chase and come back for you when you'll get unhook. Anything for a win.

That's the thing, some killers don't even try to win. They grabe a dude, facecamp him and just wait in the basement. If you are in SWF, you warned your friends, they finish 5 gens, leave and only you had your game ruined by some troll. I can, more or less, understand why people camp to win. Lack of skills in chase, etc...…

The only times I DC is when a killer camp/tunnel me like hell from the start and that I can't help my teammates anymore. If the dude facecamp me, I'll stay on the hook to provide time for other players fixing gen. But if I make a stupid encounter earler in the game, the killer found me by some stupid luck, wait for someone…

The game is no toxic, people are.

@OtakaChan : Like the guy said to me, it's our fault and we just have to suck it up when a killer camp and tunnel with no reason. Playing like this is not toxic at all. Yesterday again... I play and make a rookie mistake and finish on the hook. It's on me and I deserv it since I play poorly this time. The killer just loop…

Some people love bullying crappy killers. Killers like me. xD I'm not a good killer and before the crossplay it was very often that I across some people who loved play this way. Some dude rank 19/20 and way more skilled than some rank 1 survivors. They take pleasure by humiliate people this way. Of course, they trashtalk…

Just to say that I'm totally agree with you. =)

I saw some pro bubba facecamper wih time. Dudes know perfectly when start to charge the chainsaw when the survivor is in the right place to down him. Pro never lie...

You're a funny dude.

Like I said I won't argue anymore with you since you refuse to consider anything. Have a good fun camping and tunneling.

I'm an average player, that's what I try to explain. You like camping, tunneled people? Do your tthing. I just explain to you that: 1: It's toxic. 2 : it's ruining the game for the personne on the hook. It's not "my rulebook" or a way to be salty. Just a fact.

Basically, my only right is to accept being camped and tunneled just because the killer don't want to play? that's it? I'm not some tryhard dude who loop over and over, who stay hidden in every bush or so. I made mistake, I get chase, I finish on the hook. I's fair game. And then, the ugly part start. The killer stay put…

Nobody play for fun anymore. :/

NOED is a perk for new or average killers who have hard time to kill survivors during trial. I don't say that to bait anyone, juste to be clear. I play with the perk who help locate totems (don"t have tthe name in english, sorry) because a lot of player use NOED. Just for a kill in endgame. And, yeah, I'm one of thoses…

Probably a lot of players with a similar daily challenge.

I'm against any form of camping, but what you described here is just dumb survivors. Or salty survivors... Or both? :p

Can't say I play Killer often, but I don't mind when survivors take he hatch, with or without key. I ever let the last survivor out if he's not toxic and I don't camp ever, specially in endgame. I'm probably a baby killer, a noob or whatever. I never consider mori toxic or any item/perk. I only despise camping and…

It's a weird way to present things. ^^' I'll never understand how body block or using palet to help oher survivors not getting hooked can be considered toxic.

"Hook defense"? That's a thing? The dude is camping badly, that's it, no need to hold a discussion. Like Cluelesswanderer say, that's his right. Every gamer play like he wants to. He ruining the game for Jake and Yu Jin. You can call that a strategy and I can get it that some survivors can be toxic and lake of respect in…

Like you said, every items had been nerfed it this day. You still need to finish a lot of gen his there is a lot of survivors still alive. In wich way it's a "free, unearned escape?". You can't hide and take the hatch doing nothing. At some point, I really have the feeling that you don't play for fun but just for the win.…

Not a joke at all (or a bait). I really never saw a survivor with a key. Maybe it's a new thing with red rank survivors, but since we get camped and tunnel every game, I can't rank up very fast. =)

I love the part when he's a good guy. You can't ruin the game and saying "Well, since I ruining their game, I can at least finish it faster". When you play killer, hook a survivor and leave, you know that someone will come, unhook the guy and, sometimes, heal him. That's just a crappy excuse. When you come back after a…

Killers are actually whining about keys. Devs are busy to make them happy.

Yes, when the killer is good.

You did camp the Jake. When you don't have any reason to go back and staying around a survivor on a hook, it's camping. Before that, I don't have anything to say. I'm main survivor and I know that sometimes survivors can be stupid and use stupids excuses like that. Or even worse, the killer hit you because some genius…

That's new to me. You don't need to fix 4 gens when one survivor die to make the hatch pop now?

I'm main survivor and I won't ever complain about mori. It's a part of the game. All items are and add some fun/punch/spice. So, complain about keys... seriously? You need to fix gens first and very often the dude who came with the key is focus/tunnel hard. How often a survivor came with a key? Almost never. Complain about…

I play main survivor and check this in every rank: people are stupid and NEVER hide in a locker. You know pretty fast when a killer play with BBQ. But... And since killer camp almost every time, this perk is rarely used to pinpoint other players. Maybe that's why they don't have this reflexe.

Sure... And we remove the fact that he can lunch his knifes while running to counterbalance.. =)

Ce topic est plutôt drôle dans le sens ou même au bout de deux ans, la communauté et les tueurs sont toujours aussi toxiques et incapables de jouer correctement. Je lis plus haut que le fait d'être campé peut être lié à la toxicité du survivant durant la partie. Oui, c'est même tout à fait normal de se faire pourrir quand…

In that case, it's my fault for not reading all of it, sorry. =) I don't know if that's a question about rank, but, yes, Bubba camp 9 on 10 times. Even if they don't facecamp, they stay near the hooking survivor. Chili is not used to detect survivor but earning BP right now. It's already did. It get buffed because people…

That's not all. Now Bubba can move while rughing with his chainsaw. I have a video when the dude go back and forth in the stairs in the basement. Dude hit me twice in one rush.

Bubba? Well... On 10 games, 8 of them will be with a camping killer. No need to be against a Bubba. You talk about strategy. Really? Staying front of a survivor or making circle is that funny? Camping and tunneling. EVERY GAME! What's the point? One time ou two, I found some genius with Insidious waiting 15minutes in the…