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Honestly I just made this post to vent frustration. I never really looked into the devs on this particular issue. But I mean they would say comms are fine. Its to cater to people so they stay playing the game to buy cosmetics.

I stated actual logic and reason in this discussion but you both just basically can only say get gud but offer no real argument against it. Because it clearly shows that you have none.

I dont think you can understand how in a 4v1 situation how unfair it is to be able to communicate at all times. No matter how good a player you can be. 4 people who can say when you are chasing them to rush gens or say hey he gone get me off hook. Or say hey I'm across the map heal me. You can state perks like bond to…

If you don't wish to play party chat is fine. But you dont understand how truly gamebreaking communication is in a 4v1 game.

I remember it was mw3 it would prevent party chat in some game modes. Long time ago but it did.

It was a fps game. That all I can remember. Was to long ago.

That why I said just give solos a in game chat then nerf the ######### out of survivors to compensate.

I do remember a game on xbox that did force me into game chat. but when i ignored it. It forced me out of the lobby. Back to lobby menu.

I more intended this to vent really. But yeah no crap people will do anything to gain a unfair advantage. You get rewarded for it in this game. But I mean I rather they give solos a in game party chat to balance it out for everyone on survivor side then nerf the ######### out of them to compensate for the insane bonus of…

Exactly the point. Instead of balancing swf because of this issue they nerf survivors in general ######### over solos. That's the problem. Either they make a special icon for swf that nerfs action speeds for each swf in lobby to compensate for communication or give solos that same kind of communication. Then just nerfing…

Motivation: like idea of a 4v1 gametype. Able to play as your favorite movie killer Discouragement: survive with friends fun with your friends. Sucks playing as killer. Terrible bugs that still dont get fixed. No real reason to be high rank other then sweaty players. Singular goals for both roles. Such as maybe other…

Let's be real no dev will read this so not sure why people even think it would matter. I just want to suggest something more balanced in a way that both sides get something out of it. I get a 4v1 game cant really ever be balance but I want something that Is as close as possible.

I only suggest if they restricted it only turns off if you have 3 or more survivors if less it still works as intended. You dont need second chance perks at endgame if you have 2-3 people left to help protect you.

I even suggested changes to noed as well.

So it's bad because it has restrictions. So it's bad because it has to much words is not a valid reason honestly. Having restrictions is not a bad thing. Your suggestion to counter is just slugging the most moronic play ever with no real thought. I'm not meaning to ######### on you or your opinion. Just slugging is a…

I clearly stated that only stops working endgame not at all. I only said they stop working if more the 3 people are left again at endgame. you have 2 or more people you dont need second chance perks once endgame starts. I dont state killers deserve kills. That if you have 3 or more player late game you should play smarter…

True but I did massively state why with reasons for how the changes could work. But I agree it will be a ######### show.

Considering you gave no real input other they suck tells me nothing of real importance. I say they shouldn't work. But I at least stated that I was willing to compromise with restrictions. I even stated that you shouldn't get second chance perks endgame. That they should for only when generators need to be worked on. How…

I agree but we need time to tell. If it does seem pallets and are just insanely unsafe dor survivors then yeah bloodlust needs to be removed. But too new to tell right now.

That's why I suggested the ability to go down from tier 2 back to 1. It gives both sides a way to play it out imo. Killer gets more time wasted for survivors to go back a tier instead of gens. Survivors can either wait it out for gen work or go down a tier for fear of the tier 3 effects.

Doctor imo should have one change that I would like to see be play tested. You should be able to get out of tier 2 of madness. I can see doctor mains say this would kill his power but let's think this through. Survivor can decide either stay in tier 2 or wait till more agonizing tier 3. This would also make the doctor have…

I get it. sucks being camped, tunneled, or slugged. But that can happen with any killer sadly. Plague herself is just not op. Just how killer players act is what more is a problem. But I main killer. I feel like camping, mass slugging, and tunneling happens because of just terrible balance by devs. They need to just redo…

Borrowed time is fine. I do feel like it should turn off when gens are finished but that's it. Ds again is ok but I do agree that it should be tie in with being the obsession considering it makes you a higher chance of being one. Such as if you are the obsession its 60 secs if you are not its half the duration of 30…

I mean to insta down she has to waste time constantly throwing up till she gets that down. I mean if she chased normally and just m1 hits she could get you about the same time most likely so that's a invalid argument. Cleansing is after the chase or hook not during a chase so again you gave a invalid argument. Plague is…

Yeah was just terrible in design. It's just frankly pathetic on the devs. So they made a insanely dark map tons of small items that you cant see that can block you from running. Crap that gets in the way for both sides. The fact that it's not being addressed is worse when this has been a complaint since the beginning.

I mean killers should be faster otherwise they could never end a chase so that's a dumb complaint. Lunges are hit and miss but lag is just deciding factor here. One hits are mostly situational a tiny few require mediocre skill at best. Tunnels and campers exist as a crutch for bad game design forcing them to employ that…

Keys and moris are crutches imo. But solo is not that bad unless you get constant potato survivors. I mean you either get out or you die its a toss up but its a 4v1. It just seem like ######### for survivors cause it doesn't feel like you get any rewards unless you escape is the problem.

I agree with what you said. But swf in a call can make just end the game in 5-6 minutes. So many games I done this and either all 4 of us escaped or 3 in less then 6 minutes. Which is why I stated my suggestion on swf to nerf it without the need of nerfing survivors all around like most killers think the devs should do.

I mean cant really do anything about discord calls unless they prevent discord links in game chat. But mainly they should just make swf have a icon letting the killer know what he is against and add a feature where for every swf you get a specific debuff for speeds for every survivor with the swf icon. I mean you are most…

Not sure if you mean my idea or his but let's be real 4 people getting a whole a minute of safety is to much. It why most killers end up slugging which is the worst imo. Slugging ruined the fun for killers and survivors. I'm not saying it so I can get 4ks. Most killers I see getting those are from just facing bad survivors…

Ds is a fine perk. The problem is 4 people should not be able to use it without any repercussion. Basically all they need to do is make 30 secs if you are not the obsession. But if you are it's the normal 60 seconds. Plus it needs to bot activate once the gens are done. Had a game where I got 3 down all three ds me into…

I agree on ebony moris should be changed. It should be after second hook they can kill the survivor considering they can kill more then one survivor with this mori. But the green/yellow ones are fine they are super situational on how they work plus it only one survivor. Gens only feel fast because of how janky the spawns…

Honestly I dont care anymore you just a racist individual. This whole forum just shows it. Since the only thing that matters to you is the fact a white killer has a black person skin as a mask so you want to scream it being blackface and it being racist. When everyone has had to explain to you multiple times that it has…

Segregation, noun, the action or state of setting someone or something apart from other people or things or being set apart. So yes it is you moron. Considering you only have a issue that the white killer has one black girls face as a mask but it's ok if he has two white people's faces and Jake who is Asian face but no it…

I'm done trying to get you to understand just basic logic. Context is what matters and the utter refusal to see that this has nothing to do with race but just the lore of a movie killer that wears his victims skin as a mask.

Do you not understand what segregation means or was that taught at your school? If they remove something because of the color of skin is racist good intentions or not. So by actuality removing her face because she is black is indeed racist. Doesn't matter how you want to put it but yes its racist by definition. But I mean…

Having a problem or issue with something yeah you should be able to advocate for it. But when you are advocating something that has bo real basis is a issue. Considering you are claiming this to be racist with no real evidence. Yes blackface was used to insult people of color. But a serial killer that wore the skin of his…

Excluding something or someone because of the color of their skin is racist. It is called segregation. Hence if they didn't add it for that reason they could be called racist good intentions or not. You are upset that a Killer that eats people, skins them and wears them like a mask is bad only cause he wears a black…

I agree but if they made him have none or a tiny terror radius to compensate for his short stature he would be playable. Just stealthy killer with a power I suggested he have where he can make a single illusion generator that he can use to trick survivors into doing that shows their aura if they start working on it to just…

He would use a Shillelagh since he is a leprechaun so it would make more sense as a weapon. But I like where you are going with it. But adding him would be a nightmare. Considering his small stature would just suck for him with chasing with so many loops he wouldn't be able to see over the debris or windows to continue the…

I mean if a constant amount of killer's has to use three slowdown perks to slow gens down. then the gen speed is a problem. But I mean I stated before if they did nerf gen speeds then those perks would have to be nerfed in some way. Most likely by not being able to stack the effects together. Cause then killers could just…

The killer perk that makes you bleed more and have hemorrhage status effect

Ironically though is what killers dont think about is if gens speed gets nerfed certain killer perks would have to be nerfed as well. Because if gen speeds get nerfed which om ok with. Thanatopia, dying light, bloody butcher, pop would have to receive either nerfs or just cant synergize as well cause then it would be just…

I understand that it why I responded with rebuttals instead of attacks. It's why I see the changes I suggested to be the most fair to both sides. I gave examples and reasons to how it works both sides giving benefits and negatives. True balance will never exist I know that. But with every response you gave me which I…

I mean if you look at my suggestion for changes it benefits both sides.

I even stated how it works both ways for both sides. They still get something out of my suggested change.

Not sure if my post loaded or not but sorry for replying same info but. One different times is not a bad thing considering rarity of killer addons and lvl of the perk should effect times. Two if a killer decides to waste a whole minute for a guaranteed drop instead of gen defense is something I will say that. Also slugging…

If you are talking different timers based on lvl of borrowed time is how it should work more time based on its lvl. With killers abilities again based on addons of rarity changes the time. As it should be. On the tunneling thing though if a killer decides that wasting a whole minute for a guaranteed drop is more worth then…

They should just revert it back to its original effect. Where when in deep wound you have let's say 60 seconds for example till the timer goes down and puts you dying state. The only way to pause timer is to start mending once you are forced to stop mending it continues ticking down. It gives the effect a that has a real…

Well first the 60-90 was for more borrowed time considering it meant to a anti tunnel perk. legion or gunslingers deep wound procs those would be different times accordingly. The time can always be changed to fit what's reasonable. You could also end the chase earlier then those 90 seconds I just meant the survivor cant…