hagling

presumably everyone will drop it tomorrow to gush about the new content / complain about the new bugs, but who knows if that strat's gonna actually pay off. i don't think there ever would've been a good time to tell us, it's awful news.

there's one answer, at least.

unfortunately, here's the article: "As for the Killers, who some people have found themselves drawn to either because of their tragic pasts or just because they look particularly tasty in a certain skin, they barely remember their pasts and romance and love is something that won’t be touched upon. In Côté’s own words, the…

they've confirmed any representation will be survivor-sided only, which honestly.. is kinda disappointing when you consider frank x julie and wraith x nurse. evil straights are valid but evil queers aren't? there's an argument to be made that we've been over-represented as villains in media and that's well and good, but if…

how dare you?

altho it warms my heart that you care so much, i really don't think the devs can make the current situation worse by including us. just take a quick glance around the forums right now. gamers are practically imploding because a png had bisexual lighting, that level of irrational panic doesn't just go poof cuz you're too…

if we're taking into account every piece of media in the entire world, cishet ppl are way over-represented. are you suggesting dbd should have more than 4 queer characters to compensate for the lack of representation elsewhere? cuz i'm down, let's do that then.

so if we're about 8% of the world, naturally you'd be okay with us being represented by 4 out of dbd's 46 characters right? that's about 8%.

honestly i'm just excited to see fewer of these threads popping up once we have rep and people realize it's genuinely not that big of a deal, it's just a nice bit of inclusion for a marginalized community to be like 2% happier playing DBD. any opposition to that feels disproportionate. barely requires any effort on the…

BHVR cuz some kpop stans @'d them on twitter

taking into consideration the latest teases and the korean hashtag i don't really think it fits an american animatronic indie game, my bet's on original. i was trying to cling to the possibility of a ringu chapter but for whatever reason they refuse to license asian horror IPs.

+1 for adept achievement portraits, i'm still sad they didn't add 'em to this latest hotfix.

so you clearly aren't capable of understanding what i was saying but i'll go ahead and repeat myself: when we pretend that only alluding to heterosexual relationships/attractions means that the characters could be bi or pan or any other flavor of queer rather than pressuring the devs to confirm that in concrete terms,…

betting they all popped on unbreakable after that round and gave the next killer hell, all you did was amplify their feeling like killers are ######### and deserve to be bullied, assuming that's what they were actually doing, and perpetuate the meta. gg tho you really showed 'em who's uhh.. boss?

x ray vision or shirtless myers, pick one bhvr. 🙏

excluding the current tome cuz it's not finished yet, there have been lore entries for a total of 17 playable characters. only 2 of those were about or alluded to a romantic relationship, julie's tome and david's tome. both straight relationships. if you really think the devs are gonna give the remaining characters…

neither. it'll be an improvement but the UI and animations are intentional artistic changes that indicate where their heads are at and what we'll see going forward so i think if anyone's quitting because of this, the patch won't change that. the rest of us will get used to it begrudgingly and hope the next update at least…

looks like it won't censor general profanity

as someone who plays hag a lot this is the QoL improvement i've been waiting for.

if hook struggle changed to pyramid's cage mechanic with the skill checks instead of the buttonspam that'd work nicely. you could technically still die, but it'd take a few missed skill checks first to give the killer / your allies time to do something.

true! but when we decide that's the case rather than pressure the devs to actually MAKE that the case by clarifying their sexuality, we're giving them an easy out on rep.

this is a really good PSA, thank you! i hate sets so much, just let us do what we want with the overpriced cosmetics we bought 😒

you don't have to say felix is straight or frank is straight or ace is straight for the majority to reach that conclusion but if you tell us yui kimura's a lesbian in no uncertain terms? that's a clarifying, strong statement, one many gamers wouldn't even consider unless the lore provided that intel. that's the big…

coming from a queer person, representation matters and hiding behind the excuse that everyone should get to decide for themselves has been at odds with the canon for awhile. frank x julie? confirmed. wraith x nurse? strongly implied. david has an ex girlfriend, felix has a current girlfriend and an unborn child he wants to…

i remember the devs discussing shifting the struggle phase to pyramid head's cage skill checks way back when his chapter released, then nothing really came of it. seems like that happens way too often with BHVR, they discuss a good idea to tease the community, then we wait forever while they continue implementing features…

wraith op pls nerf the devs do listen when we're loud enough it's just a question of how long before their solutions actually come to live, they nerfed undying, they're nerfing ds and ooo, they're bringing colorblind accessibility options [finally], they're revising both the UI and the animations. imo the backlash just…

their plan is to 'review' the new animations not revert them so your overblown reaction isn't necessary. It would be a clear indication that the game isn't for horror fans its for people with repressed emotions and stan cams on twitter. but also? just liking the old animations better than these weirdly stilted new ones…

i saw someone doing it in one of my lobbies earlier this morning, maybe you're not shuffling quickly enough? i really hope they just let us keep the glitch, sets are so stupid.

it's just a result of both sides sweating, you encourage each other the further up the ranks you climb or you're punished for it. i'll have the occasional round in red ranks where nobody's brought ds so there's no obsession and more often than not killers take that as an invitation to tunnel as much as they possibly can.…

i'm a survivor main but the killer challenges i've completed haven't been fun, hits not registering, general strangeness, the awful UI. especially with the event going on being connected to finishing gens + the new year toolbox, survivors are incentivized to rush to get maximum points and doubly to avoid getting smacked a…

idk why diversity's such a cursed topic on the forums, whenever BHVR drops a new poc survivor it's not like a billion threads pop up demanding their deletion. starting to think people here hate the IDEA more than the actual implementation cuz it's the exact same reaction whenever LGBTQ+ rep is mentioned. an indian…

i'll keep my feedback solution oriented: reorient the onscreen information how it used to be while keeping the improvements like the hook counter and changing the character portraits to the adept achievement icons, that way it feels like we're still going in a new, better direction rather than 100% reverting. either tweak…

DBD isn't scary beyond like the 10 hour mark and there's a good reason survivors aren't called "victims" instead. each side should have a fair shot at completing their objective, not getting destroyed because of ######### hit validation or clunky poorly implemented movement -- neither of which relate to a killer's skill or…

i came here to say exactly this, i was open minded and hopeful that maybe it'd feel more natural than it was on the PTB but it's just so clunky. movement itself feels more sluggish like every survivor's on a casual morning jog and the killer chasing behind them with murderous intent is purely incidental, and somehow…

laura from evil within i didn't even consider but she'd be SO cool to see in dbd i swear, tysm for the suggestions! i'm not big into resident evil so i just saw lisa trevor for the first time via google images, her whole leatherface aesthetic is just 👌 yup, this thread's from september. back then we hadn't gotten a woman…

snow hag, hag of the snow. 👍 swamp hag will finally have a friend she can eat ppl with. i approve.

between that challenge + the dropping pallets while being chased there have rarely been many pallets on the map by the time the killer gives me attention, too. 💀 feels like there should really only be one pallet-centric challenge per level if that.

if you're only playing dbd to get iri shards to eventually purchase cosmetics i think quitting is a great idea, it shouldn't feel like a job and iri shards shouldn't feel like necessary payment for doing so. if it's really that tedious, at least take a break for your own sake. i plan to do the same honestly, it's really…

i don't count 'time spent playing one of my favorite games' as money, no. dbd isn't my occupation and if were iri shards wouldn't be my salary. 👀

if they threaten you or use hate speech you can report via ingame, record chat, and send in a support ticket with their info. JUST reporting doesn't seem to do it, but honestly that's my method of coping at this point. i'm really really sick of how disgusting this community can be, and people like that shouldn't get to be…

okay but some of us paid actual money so from your position getting 3 free skins sounds like a pretty amazing deal, i'd love to be in your shoes. i assume you thought about the hours you'd put into the game earning those shards before purchasing either of the halloween skins initially? you must've thought they were worth…

i know it feels kinda ######### and people wish they knew in advance, but in that scenario you're still getting two skins free of charge. it feels really entitled to demand refunds on free products that actually took time and effort and money on BHVR's end to develop. ik it's cool to bash BHVR whenever they do anything, but…

wait so you used free currency to buy two full halloween outfits and now you're mad they're giving you enough shards for a third halloween outfit you also don't have to pay for? and you want a refund.. on your free currency.. so you can get more outfits for free? 👁‍🗨👄👁‍🗨 i paid $10 for the yui outfit before i knew, but now…

closing thoughts yall can keep throwing me essays on how much you don't mind queer characters and then listing the reasons including us is a bad idea, but i'm finished responding to individual posts here. if you wanna keep the topic alive go for it, hopefully the devs will see it. thanks to the couple of you who are…

i'm really grateful they're doing this, hopefully now people can try their best to enjoy the event for what it is rather than being upset it's a flagrant cashgrab with no redeeming qualities. thank you devs!

you're absolutely right i don't need them to, i want them to! like representation, nuance is very important. 👻

LGBTQ+ representation 🌈🌈🌈 ... and hair reworks for nea she has so many unintentional baldspots and janky polygons that it's almost funny. oh and masks designed to look like the killers each survivor was released with, that'd be cute. better, more interesting dailies that reward rift fragments / iri shards. as @KingFrost…

nope! but the thing about communities that allow bigots to thrive is.. they're full of them. i fully expect 'heated gamer moments' regardless of the quality of representation because at this point expecting better from ALL gamers is just too much to ask, although much fewer if the devs keep to their word. the most…

this is the argument against any sort of inclusion at all, why have black survivors if white killers can target them specifically? ah #########, they're already ingame. what about fat characters? wait, jane exists. damn. oh and there are tons of women, what can be done about the inherent misogyny of killing them? you're just…

why do you feel like it's one or the other? i'm not asking specifically for white LGBTQ+ characters. i don't have time to teach you why LGBTQ+ representation in media is important so i'll just say this: i've been called so many slurs in endchat just because the other side didn't enjoy how i played. DBD, specifically,…