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used correctly Engravings are good, and they lift up other addons (for example tuned carburator) which are useless without an engravin: to go along with them. In addition, most of his other addons are useless comparatively (survivorship bias). Therefore, the usage rate must be high, and since good billies (who get a high…

If i have a pc and i decide to say f it lets remove the graphics card and run games purely on cpu, only to buy a brandnew pc due to bad performance instead of putting the graphics card back in, that would be idiotic. If BHVR destroys a killer through hiliariously harsh nerfs, only to rework him due to bad performance…

If certain addons are overperforming compared to other addons, there are several possible causes. Addons can also be OP without overperforming compared to the rest. Billy has 3 good addons, 3 decent ones and the rest are situational and unnoticable. If a billy would like to use his power in chase like bubba, he needs to…

most good reggression perks got obliterated, this isnt one-sided. Although i do agree that for altruistic healing 24s is ridicoulus. Healing someone else should take 16s, and only self heal should take more time, which was the frustrating bit for killers. as long as they add that little caviat i think it'll be fine?

with Twins sure, a rework probably wouldnt make anyone that mad. Her kit is flawed in concept. But twins was never really as popular billy as was. Eventhough she's rarer, most players are more excited to see billy than twins. The foundation for a great killer is still there, it was built upon poorly. If, in theory, dark…

have you heard of the deagle? the gun thats celebrated for requiring a lot raw skill along with good gamesense? I personally still suck with it, eventhough i regularly use it., and i already have 1.8k hrs invested Its objectively mediocre balance wise but fun as hell to use, prolly due to the potential lethality. Kind of…

My god. The 11k hours even imply that he has seen most of the games developement. The number of matches against m1 killers, all of which use the same mindgames, wether its pig, trapper, legion, etc... Prefers if Killers are less variable, in essence if his experience ingame stands out less with each passing day... By…

bro dropped the hardest stealth drift billy perk and thought we wouldnt notice

I agree partially, but that isn't the consequence of gentlemen who're able to land absolutelly rancid curves, it's a result of problems that bother the beginner more than the expert IMO. Overheat is mostly a non-factor for experienced players, newer player constantly get put on cooldown. great billy dont bump into objects…

I think the thought process was: "Billys with the highest killrate always use these addons! We should nerf them, they must be too strong" without taking a closer look as to why they're used in the first place: "Billys with the highest killrate always use these addons! Why? hmm, they like curving eventhough it isnt the most…

Boy are you gonna be happy reading the patchnotes

If i play optimally (proxy camp, tunnel, forcing 3 gens), im bad, and if i dont, im not playing optimally -> poorly. When are killers good? Only when its nurse, who can commit to chases other killers dream of and finish in 10 secs?

i think a lot of trapper mains would cry tears of blood if that update ever happened.

I agree with your primary point, and this plagues nearly every killer and their playerbase. this has happened to me with dredge. When i started toying with him, i thought that unless you go full meta you don't have a chance, but looking back i realized that i simply sucked (and still do) at any macro level decision making.…

one way I'd love for the nerf to have happened was just by massively reducing the time you have while pop stays active: for the next 20 or 25 seconds for example. This would reward skilled gameplay since it brings value the faster you get the down and the less a survivor was able to run away from the active gen. Like other…

I think any killer that cannot atleast in theory down survivors really fast needs a teeny bit of slowdown just to keep the game under control. nothin too brutal but maybe surge or NWO. Billy, huntress & co can just snowball quickly so i don't think its as needed when it comes to winrate.

The concept of the dreamworld so the OG freddy seemed interesting to me, i just hope they find a way to bring it back with better execution. In Theory, calmly working on a gen, to hearing some weird lullaby and then be summoned to some hellish fake out dream world getting chased sounds fun and scary as heck. Especially if…

I agree. To me, the best solution is to make it not 100% precise, just show 20,40,60,80% and thats already good enough info, and doesnt lead to any decent survivor recognizing tinkerer.

no it is SWF. I watched both videos and you can tell that Hens team is refraining from using Bnp/antihemorragig syringe, any perk more than twice, stuff like that. If a SWF wants to win against every killer that isnt a nurse or a really good blight, they need to just bring the strongest stuff and its easy sailings. Best…

listen, blight was certainly a sociopath, but pig is type to put razor blades into halloween candy, no? i think I'd put her above him.

I hate DH as much as the next Killer, but the new dead hard is certainly easier to deal with than the old one. old DH let you just straight up ignore a grave mistake, while the new one can only correct smaller errors. some killers got destroyed by old DH, like trapper or slinger. the distance it buys you to and in loops is…

Love him. Although some of his addons are busted like nothing else in the game, he still requires knawletsh. Only worry i have is the abysmal hygiene some of the lunatics that main him maintain.

I think theyre about equal, but in high mmr, ghostface is alot more reliable and myers tricks dont work as well bc most people are aware. Both can be strong in their own right, myers just needs a bit more than ghostface in either gamesense or addons.

While they are on the topic of patching up some collision i hope billy and blight get some love in that departement, some maps feel awful to play.

I think nurses and blights abuse addons that are grossly overtuned. But thats another tangent. I made a thread a while ago abt basekit swf, i looked into it and i agree completely that they can change a lot for the better. I think a conclusion we can both end up agreeing on is that while the changes in this patch were good…

Tell me - how tf does that even remotely relate to what i typed earlier? Im all on that fk nurse train, i want bad killers to get significant buffs (sadako, freddy, myers, clown, revert wraith, ... etc.) And yet i still dont want survivors to leave whenever a nemo has some idea of how to punish obvious macro mistakes. I…

Thats the thing though, now the game for killer is fair against a swf. If folks cant stand playing with the odd bad mates then please help yourself. Any game sucks in soloq, if ppl cannot accept that, the solution is right there. And why are you "us vs them"ing so much?

*Looks at post history* Right... On a more serious note, i think soloQ will be a lot better once all the babies are gone. But "us vs them"ing abt it now doesnt do anything. They have soloQ changes scheduled and looking at the outrage theyll probably come sooner rather than later.

Have you ever honestly given killer a go prepatch? I stopped playing killer bc i had to focus incredibly hard sweating my balls off just for timmy2007 to teabag me at the gates bc he ds'd me. And abt tunnelling and camping, whenever somebody decides to hardcore do it, it usually results in 3 man escapes, AS LONG AS ppl…

Nah, suiciding on hook bc you dont have the "extend chase for 30 sec" button anymore = kids now.

I usually play a lot of killers with good chase power and map controll so i was avle to finish chases quickly enough to rely on natural pressure alone. Although i dont expect sadako mains not to run atleast one gen perk.

surge/jolt on that level would be way too busted with surveillance i think...

i prefer it over eyrie but honestly after playing it as different killers and with different surv builds i gotta say its just kind of boring. drop and W, drop and W, with no real chance of the killer mindagming your kinda forced to just break it instead of yctually challenging the surv

they can only really improve soloQ tbh, everything else seems like an inherently bad idea.

gideon and eyrie i despise because they reward this brainless drop pallet hold w playstyle, and the killer cant mindgame at all., in addition bad pathing vs good pathing is nearly indestinguishable, which leads to boring play for seasoned survs and killers alike. I actually really like some loops in garden of joy, but it…

i disagree with the same guy, but c'mon. flashbang, blast mine, bite the bullet, resurgence, Eruption, hysteria and especially lethal are some of the most healthy and fun perks this game has seen in a while. I'd love for all perks to be similar in design to these. Nemi is also very fun and has reasonable counterplay IMO.

your sins will be cleansed if you play double engravings billy.

The only false words in your post are that you suck at getting your point across. That was short, sweet and to the point. To add, I used to get really mad at survs for doing stuff like that, until i started playing a bit of surv. I'm much less aggro now bc i understand the opponents POV. Now whenever i get a bit tilted…

I love all of the new content from an objective, gamehealth and fun perspective, but it kinda stings for billy because you can no longer skybilly, and the bush hitboxes are scuffed for the chainsaw collision. The new killer and survivor + their perks look fun though, and the map is quite nice apart from main.

You gotta get past the beginning stages of frustration, but then hes fun as hell, since you always feel like you couldve done better, even if you won. Hes also quite strong if played optimally, id say a god tier billy can compete with a god tier huntress in terms of results. This is a great video explaining how to billy…

Unless youre playing against the top 1% of survs id disagree with the sentiment that you cant get hits with m1 killers. If the survs you play against as oni can "just hide out your power" i think you're misusing your power.

this seems really interesting. I like this bc it works especially well with the other boons that only work when the killer is around. its better with exponential than with coh. but id have it like this: When the killers snuffs this boon, he gets stunned for 3/4/5 sec.

c33 needs to be addressed imo, it makes pallets useless and distance wise its as if billy had a perma 99 chainsaw fo breaking pallets. that addon is dumb. alchring alongside blighted crow and rat need some adjustements to bring them along with the other killers addons. also AV ist dumb and stupid and i hate it

it sucks for billy because the bush hitbox is scuffed and the windows in main are depressing. but outside of that? i think its fine.

once all survs are red you literally cant get t3. huntress can always reload, oni can always injure survs to get it, etc, you get the idea. the only other killer who can effectively run out of power is pig. Now i agree with @HectorBrando that its not the main thing driving his weakness, but i dont like your representment…

Thats a great summary of the dilemma, but i dont see a way to properly solve this issue. a "basekit SWF" would force a TON of perks to be completely rebalanced, like situational awareness (better together) or kindred, but its probably the route were heading.

survs can control what gens they do, killers cant control where the surv goes down.

It doesnt even counter hatch it counters the strat of 10%ing on a large enough map. You can still find it first with and the killer can still close it without nwo. Nothing changes, really.

a fine collection

compared to about 60% of the killer cast, Spirit is in a great place. She can only be considered a tiny bit weaker when talking about either nurse or blight, compared to which all other killers are pathetic and awful. A blight in his power needs to be good, can be outplayed in a lot of scenarios and gets stunned after…